> The land south of Egypt, beyond the first cataract of the Nile, was known to the ancient world by many names: Ta-Seti, or Land of the Bow, so named because the inhabitants were expert archers; Ta-Nehesi, or Land of Copper; Oh, is that what Ta-Nehesi Coates is named after? I decided to look, and apparently his name is slightly different, Ta-Nehisi. What's weird just just how often he's miscredited with the wrong nam…
Note that Ta-Nehisi Coates insists on the pronunciation "Ta-Nehasi Coates."
The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years ago
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Re: The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years ago
#82"Kushi" is still a current slur against black people in Israel and other Hebrew-speaking areas.[1] It's a bit like calling someone a "chinaman." Also, some people point out the sound similarity of קוֹף (monkey) and כושי (Kushite). [1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/chief-rabbi-compares-african-a...
I wouldn't say this is accurate. Well, some might use it that way, but as a kid this is the word we were taught for black folk with no harm intended, it's also the name used in the bible--I believe it's originally from the bible.
Hasidic singer slurs Obama at Jerusalem concert[2]
Terra incognita: Israel’s k-word: Can Holon teach us a lesson in racism?[3]
https://forward.com/opinion/361625/michael-twitty-black-jewi...
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hasidic-singer-slurs-obama-at-...
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/columnists/terra-incognita-isr...
Re: The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years ago
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I challenge you to go find a description of race based on skin colour in old Roman texts. The colour of someone's skin is barely commented on in them, more of a novelty about the person, and is not described as being related to "race." And yet they had an empire which spanned from North Africa to Northern Europe. Race as a category was an invention to justify the form of slave trade during the settling of the America…
As expressed by sibling comments -- skin color is irrelevant to my point. If it's not skin color, it's "those people beyond the mountains" or "the river folk to the south" or "the Babylonians" or whatever. I'm talking about tribal/identitarian discrimination that ascribes essential natures/behaviors to "other" peoples. This narrowly-defined and elevated notion of racism along the lines of skin color, Atlantic slave t…
Xenophobia and racism are completely separate concepts, although xenophobia does underly racism. It's entirely possible to construct a form of race that relies on other qualitative factors than skin color—just look at colourism, which ironically explicitly lays out non-color qualitative identifiers of "dark and light skinned"—hair type, body shape, hyperpigmentation, prevalence of certain genetic disease, whatever. These terms arose from feedback loops where racist capital dictate societal beauty standards and cultural norms. You certainly can't explain phenomena like skin bleaching or the long history of hair straitening with simple xenophobia. But, colourism is just one effect globalized racist capital has produced.
When academics talk about how racism is a problem, they definitely aren't discussing a general form of qualitative, personal discrimination. These racial structures underly our communities, our politics, our identities, here in America our state's use of slave labor in prisons, how our wealth is divided among our citizens, how we construct and discuss trade deals and foreign "charities" such as the Gates foundation, etc. simply put, you cannot discuss racism without discussing how race is embedded in the structures and processes all around us. These dynamics are easier to ignore in ethnically homogenous societies... unless of course you are a minority or immigrant.
Whiteness and blackness as we know it here in America were invented to formalize the structures of slavery here between the 15th and 18th centuries—this took centuries to move from the enslavement and sale of both Africans and indigenous Americans to a codified racial hierarchy, driven by European capital and nearly complete genocide of the indigenous people. I am sure there are similar narratives in the Congo, in Rhodesia, in South Africa, in Brazil, in European involvement in Southeast Asia, in virtually every part of the carribean and West Indies—it's colonialism, baby!
Every single aspect of the development of racism was ultimately driven by European capital. When countries "decolonialized" the west simply replaced formal state oppression with oppression through trade deals and proxy wars, which could not take course without European capital and violence. Make no mistake, European wealth is racist blood money.
This attitude of "oh the form of racism I learned about on Mister Roger's Neighborhood is just xenophobia with a different name" is just completely ignorant of the past 150-200 years of analysis of race and racism. I recommend these books if you have any serious inclination of discussing race:
* "Black Reconstruction" and "the souls of black folk", by WEB du Bois.
* "Settlers: The Mythology of the White Proletariat from Mayflower to Modern" by J. Sakai
* Toni Morrison's "the origin of others" directly addresses your attitude towards racism—after all, though racism is distinct from xenophobia, xenophobia is necessary for racism.
* "Color Stories: Black Woman and Colorism in the 21st century (intersections of race, ethnicity, and culture)" by JeffriAnne Wilder.
* "redefining race: Asian american panethnicity and shifting ethnic boundaries" by Dina Okamato.
* "Marxism and the National and Colonial Question" by Joseph Stalin. Note, I am not a Stalin fan, but he's a decent essayist and laid out an excellent argument for separating the concepts of state sovereignty and nationhood, which is basically a collective recognition of being part of a shared people. You see this in the "union" part of the soviet union and the 56 nations of China, though this is frequently disingenuously translated as "ethnic groups".
* building off the above book, "The Nine Nations of North America" is a must read. This was written by Joel Garreau.
* "Racial ideas and the impact of imperialism in Europe": https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1084877980857986...
* "the color complex: the politics of skin color in a new millennium." by Kathy Russell
This is also neglecting vast swathes of racial dynamics across central and South America, Asia, Australia and Polynesia—you really can fill up entire libraries with how racism is distinct (materially, culturally, subjectively) from xenophobia and manifests through labor exploitation and capital transfer.
Re: The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years ago
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, it's probably fair to say that it's been ignored by the general public, but then so have most really old civilisations; in the popular imagination, there was nothing except Greece, Rome and Egypt until this side of 1 AD. > hinges on the current fad of 'Europeans are all racists and didn't appreciate a Black civilization', which is of course wrong. ... eh, until last century it was fashionable to attribute it to…
> in the popular imagination, there was nothing except Greece, Rome and Egypt until this side of 1 AD. Really? The Romans are known for their expansionism. Who were they conquering? Who was everybody fighting against in 300 ?
(This was, in fairness, largely how the Romans represented it to themselves, regardless of how true it was, so it's maybe not surprising.)
Re: The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years ago
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't say this is accurate. Well, some might use it that way, but as a kid this is the word we were taught for black folk with no harm intended, it's also the name used in the bible--I believe it's originally from the bible.
The Troubling Resurgence of Racial Slurs Like ‘Shvartze’ and ‘Kushi’[1] Hasidic singer slurs Obama at Jerusalem concert[2] Terra incognita: Israel’s k-word: Can Holon teach us a lesson in racism?[3] https://forward.com/opinion/361625/michael-twitty-black-jewi... https://www.timesofisrael.com/hasidic-singer-slurs-obama-at-... https://www.jpost.com/opinion/columnists/terra-incognita-isr...
Re: The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years ago
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Troubling Resurgence of Racial Slurs Like ‘Shvartze’ and ‘Kushi’[1] Hasidic singer slurs Obama at Jerusalem concert[2] Terra incognita: Israel’s k-word: Can Holon teach us a lesson in racism?[3] https://forward.com/opinion/361625/michael-twitty-black-jewi... https://www.timesofisrael.com/hasidic-singer-slurs-obama-at-... https://www.jpost.com/opinion/columnists/terra-incognita-isr...
drorco didn't say no one uses it as a slur, they were relaying their experience having been taught the word means no ill will. I don't really see a reason to try to prove his experience wrong.
Re: The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years ago
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I challenge you to go find a description of race based on skin colour in old Roman texts. The colour of someone's skin is barely commented on in them, more of a novelty about the person, and is not described as being related to "race." And yet they had an empire which spanned from North Africa to Northern Europe. Race as a category was an invention to justify the form of slave trade during the settling of the America…
Herodotus narrates the Athenians promising that they would never betray the Spartans because they are the same race ("homaimos" → "same blood"). I don't know off the top of my head whether the Romans widely knew of the Histories, but it certainly undercuts your claim that these broader categorizations are a recent invention. The Athenians and Spartans clearly recognized a racial idea broader than the cultures of thei…
Re: The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years ago
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I challenge you to go find a description of race based on skin colour in old Roman texts. The colour of someone's skin is barely commented on in them, more of a novelty about the person, and is not described as being related to "race." And yet they had an empire which spanned from North Africa to Northern Europe. Race as a category was an invention to justify the form of slave trade during the settling of the America…
You do realize that slavery, racism and every despicable thing imaginable was the normal state of humanity for 99.999% of our 200,000+ year history? How many languages have names for a group of people based on some common attribute of that people, far before the 17th/18th century? A lot.
Re: The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years ago
#89Breathtaking photos and awesome article! I knew nothing about the Kush before reading this.
Re: The Kush civilization flourished in Sudan nearly 5K years ago
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
drorco didn't say no one uses it as a slur, they were relaying their experience having been taught the word means no ill will. I don't really see a reason to try to prove his experience wrong.
They claimed that describing this word as a slur is inaccurate. This word is commonly used and described as a slur.
I guess in English there are also such words that originally had no use as a slur but later "denominated" to racial slurs.
The reference to Kushi->Kof (monkey) is totally off. Doesn't sound similar at all for my native Hebrew ears.