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Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by sevensor »

userbinator wrote: post #315
sevensor wrote: post #265

Hold on a minute -- MacOS phones home every single time you launch an application? As a non-user of MacOS, this strikes me as utterly bonkers. You'd have to place a massive level of trust in the developers of your OS to accept this. And furthermore, surely the constant attempts to phone home have a negative effect on the user experience when the computer's network connection is missing or slow! Perhaps the fine artic…

As a non-user of MacOS, this strikes me as utterly bonkers. I assume you use Linux or anything other than Windows? Because the "SmartScreen"[1] feature in the newer versions of Windows does the same thing. [1] A common trend in these times: the word "smart" really means "we think you are stupid "

You assume correctly. Although I do use Windows for my day job, my expectations for that OS are so low that I ascribed its performance shortcomings to incompetence. I'm not tremendously surprised to learn that self-sabotage was involved. Sometimes after I type my password at the Windows 10 lock screen, I'm treated to a 5 minute wait during which I get to speculate about what terrible decisions have got us to this point. I could cold-boot Arch on a ten-year-old netbook, use it to check the weather, and shut it back down in that amount of time.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by stOneskull »

cwhiz wrote: post #581
drdeadringer wrote: post #345

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> there are millions and millions of professionals using macOS to do work every single day. Speaking for myself, every time I've used a Mac for work it's because I had to, being that it was what the employer issued. Could I have made a stink to be issued something else? Sure, but that is trading problems for problems. Have I used worse OSs? Yes, but that doesn't mean I should be grateful for what I find negative abou…

To each their own. You should use what you like.

the world don't move to the beat of just one drum..

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by coldtea »

Hackbraten wrote: post #517
saagarjha wrote: post #400

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Plus like this little thing by a guy named Turing…

If an Apple engineer were to compile a variant of Apple’s notarization algorithm where ok means no and no means ok, would the resulting binary notarize its own source fed into it?

Well, if the mechanism is e.g. a blacklist of APIs that shouldn't be used, and a blacklist of known malware hashes (as is the case), then Apple's "is this malware" routine could trivially print "no" for itself.

Sorry to the grandparent, but this is nothing like the halting problem...

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by coldtea »

saagarjha wrote: post #142
coldtea wrote: post #124

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Is there any automatic way to tell your software apart from malware? Because that's part of what this mechanism tries to provide...

In theory no, that's impossible. In practice, I publish checksums on my website and people trust that I am not malicious.

>In theory no, that's impossible

It's impossible in the general "is this file malware?" case.

It's totally possible in the "is this file a copy of known malware?" case.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

rglullis wrote: post #690
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #685

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> "interested in making things better" != "interested in making things the way I'd like them to be" Same difference really if our opinions of what constitutes "better" are so drastically opposed. > Then contribute some other way instead of just expecting the "community" to accommodate you and your opinions. I have contributed both code and money to projects I think are doing good work. Sadly there are very few of the…

> our opinions of what constitutes "better" are so drastically opposed. I am not sure I follow. You mentioned somewhere else that Lubuntu was the one that gave you the least problems and that you are now using windows. Coincidentally, Lubuntu is the flavor that looks like the most with older versions of Windows. To me it looks like your assumption is that anything that does not look like Windows 2000/XP is "worse". I…

> I am not sure I follow. You mentioned somewhere else that Lubuntu was the one that gave you the least problems and that you are now using windows. Coincidentally, Lubuntu is the flavor that looks like the most with older versions of Windows.

> To me it looks like your assumption is that anything that does not look like Windows 2000/XP is "worse"

That's a very condescending conclusion to draw. I found LXDE less complicated and significantly snappier than alternatives that had their own Ubuntu derivative. I chose an Ubuntu derivative because Ubuntu has the widest range of supported software.

But hey, it all has to do with how it looks right? Thinking like that by the Linux Desktop community is why you guys still aren't taken seriously.

> What the big companies are doing are related to the infrastructure side of things and have nothing to do with the desktop

The desktop experience is not wholly separated from the infrastructure beneath it. The init system, the event subsystem, hardware management, network management, sound system, display server etc. are only abstracted in the leakiest of ways.

> Anyway, perhaps the issue is that you are conflating "Linux" with "Open Source Desktop" and expecting a central place to solve all solutions?

Unfortunately it pretty much is the only option that is even remotely viable. But mostly I focus on problems with Linux because it has by far the most evangelical community.

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Post by pjmlp »

quanticle wrote: post #650
pjmlp wrote: post #600

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Like 1000 euros per year for a MSDN Professional license, or the required certification from several vendors that have to be renewed every couple years.

You don't need to spend €1000 to develop for Windows. Visual Studio Community Edition [1] is free to use for individuals, even for developing paid applications. Even if you're running a multi-developer business, Visual Studio Professional can be had for far less than €1000. What you're referring to is the top-tier MSDN subscription, which is something that very few organizations will require. [1]: https://visualstudi…

Community has several restrictions for any business with more than 5 developers or more than a specific profit limit.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by pjmlp »

LocalH wrote: post #617
pjmlp wrote: post #571

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Outrageous is the entitlement of the current generations for not paying for their tools. Many of us used to pay for every single piece of software that we had to run on top of our already expensive computer around 2000 euros on today's money.

You sound like the people against student loan reform because “I had to pay mine back, why shouldn’t they”. That’s peak entitlement, demanding others suffer because you did.

Entitlement is wanting stuff for free, quite the opposite.

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Post by pjmlp »

simion314 wrote: post #602
pjmlp wrote: post #571

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Outrageous is the entitlement of the current generations for not paying for their tools. Many of us used to pay for every single piece of software that we had to run on top of our already expensive computer around 2000 euros on today's money.

your perspective is limited IMO, for example you have small tools like a save cleaner utility for The Sims3 , some person made this tool in Java in his free time and shared it for free with the community, why should this dev pay Apple. There are people that make Visual novels,text based games and other indie stuff(without using Apple tools most are Python,Java or Web tech) for free or a few bucks, I think they would…

Before Java was a thing, that utility would have been written in Turbo Pascal, Quick Basic, Visual Basic, C, C++ compiler, none of them available for free.

At minimum one would need the Shareware or PD disks tax to get hold of some similar compiler.

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Post by pjmlp »

zeveb wrote: post #613
pjmlp wrote: post #571

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Outrageous is the entitlement of the current generations for not paying for their tools. Many of us used to pay for every single piece of software that we had to run on top of our already expensive computer around 2000 euros on today's money.

> Outrageous is the entitlement of the current generations for not paying for their tools. Sure, but in the case of an open-source developer working on macOS, he has already paid for his operating system; if he is using GCC, he has already paid everything the GCC developers require; why then must he pay extra money to Apple in order for other people to run his software in a straightforward manner on their machines (o…

Because traditionally compilers for a specific OS were extra pay.

Ironically that you mentioned GCC, it only came to be, because Sun made their development tools an additional payment to the base Solaris price.

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Post by quanticle »

pjmlp wrote: post #696
quanticle wrote: post #650

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You don't need to spend €1000 to develop for Windows. Visual Studio Community Edition [1] is free to use for individuals, even for developing paid applications. Even if you're running a multi-developer business, Visual Studio Professional can be had for far less than €1000. What you're referring to is the top-tier MSDN subscription, which is something that very few organizations will require. [1]: https://visualstudi…

Community has several restrictions for any business with more than 5 developers or more than a specific profit limit.

Right, which is why I was careful to state that Community was for individuals, and Professional was for multi-developer organizations.

This is in contrast with Apple, which requires you to pay $99 regardless of whether you're an individual or a corporate entity.

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