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Exactly. Uber and Lyft are a 19th century labor situation which masks itself by using 21st century technology
by giving drivers the right to turn the app off at any time? when did that happen in the 19th century?
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If you're asking for better run states, it looks like Texas is doing well but I'm unfamiliar with most other states to give you a good answer. As 20 year California resident, what I do know is that nothing has gotten better here over that time frame. Everything from infrastructure to taxes to city planning is much worse now than ever. CCPA is probably the only good outcome I can think of.
The state that scared uber and lyft off with background requirements, fingerprinting, and restricting bikelanes? I think maybe the grass is just greener.
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Well, not based on one person, but sometimes making uneconomic decisions based on human decency? That’s the society I’d rather live in. I mean, if numbers are all that matter, I’m fairly sure someone could come up with a model to deprioritise and disenfranchise almost anyone - the disabled, the elderly, the retired...
Is forcing wheelchair users to use subway human decency to you? We're talking about a situation where it's cheaper to let them use taxi service, and it's a better experience. My uncle lives in a wheelchair by the way. The horror of imagining him having to use the subway...
So this is basically an admission that the ridesharing business model is not viable without worker exploitation?
Because the previous medallion system was so much better. Either the driver rented the car to a middleman who rented the medallion from a rich owner, or said owner was selling and financing (most banks won't touch these medallions!) a medallion at a ridiculous interest rate to a driver that plans to use it as his retirement savings. Pre-Uber, the more I spoke to cab drivers the more it seemed their industry was a pyr…
There are plenty of commercial banks that have underwritten loans for taxi medallions and built up a significant portfolio Just in NY for example - North Fork Bank, Capital One, Provident and Signature Bank, See:
https://www.autofinancenews.net/allposts/finance/loss-mitiga...
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200117005338/en/Sig...
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'Ridesharing' (Which is a hilarious term for the simple fact that the ride is not being shared, the driver is not intending to go to your favorite bar. ) isn't a 21st century situation or solution. It's not a profitable or a good force in an economy, it does not pay a reasonable wage for anyone to live on, it is not environmentally friendly unless done in large quantities of people,(which is called a bus). Ridesharin…
I agree with you on one point, "ridesharing" is a silly word. I would call it something like an "Open Car Service". The main reason I can't get on board with the rest of this line of argument is that it ultimately just comes down to paternalistic protection of the poor disenfranchised gig workers that you clearly view as being less than capable, rational adult humans. The number of gig economy workers has been growin…
I've had friends who've done it just because they enjoy meeting people who are coming into town and hearing their stories, telling them about the area, etc. Many of the rides I've taken, upon talking to the driver, they'll say they do it because it gets them out of the house and they can work whenever they want. Very few of the people were trying to use it to replace a conventional employment situation.
We should all be grateful that the state is rescuing all of these people from the exploitative habits of these unprofitable companies, I guess.
Wasn’t this a proposed example application of ethereum?
So this is basically an admission that the ridesharing business model is not viable without worker exploitation?
Because the previous medallion system was so much better. Either the driver rented the car to a middleman who rented the medallion from a rich owner, or said owner was selling and financing (most banks won't touch these medallions!) a medallion at a ridiculous interest rate to a driver that plans to use it as his retirement savings. Pre-Uber, the more I spoke to cab drivers the more it seemed their industry was a pyr…
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Exactly. Uber and Lyft are a 19th century labor situation which masks itself by using 21st century technology
by giving drivers the right to turn the app off at any time? when did that happen in the 19th century?
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Who forced Lyft to shut down? Was it the state, or did they freely choose to cease operations? Obviously, spin will characterize this in any way that's advantageous. But nobody 'forced' Lyft to close.
The state made their business model illegal. Yes, technically that’s not the same thing as shutting them down, since they could have switched to a different business model, but it’s a distinction without a difference.
This is like saying that raising the minimum wage will drive McDonald's out of business. At the current prices, sure, but McDonald's will raise prices 10% to compensate (wages are not 100% of the cost of a burger) and keep on trucking.