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Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by enumjorge »

PHGamer wrote: post #730
seankimdesign wrote: post #699

Kudos on that moral victory California. You robbed my mobility-impaired younger sister of her legs without providing any alternative. Fuck your sorry excuse of public transit filled with gawkers and requiring her to wonder whether there will be connected sidewalks for her to solve her last-two-mile trip on her chair. "Oh, but Uber and Lyft were brought down by their own greed" Well, where is the non-greedy alternativ…

moral victory? this is government overreach. people set their own hours. they are contractors not employees. the government changed the rules not because they care for you but because they collect more taxes from employers than contractors.

How is enforcing worker protection government overreach? It’s what they’re supposed to do. And there’s lots of gig workers who aren’t happy with the setup. It’s not like the government took this up on their own accord.

As someone else mentioned Uber and Lyft impose restrictions on these workers that a typical contractor would not have. The litmus test isn’t simply whether you can set your number of hours.

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Post by bradenb »

ironman1478 wrote: post #771
seankimdesign wrote: post #699

Kudos on that moral victory California. You robbed my mobility-impaired younger sister of her legs without providing any alternative. Fuck your sorry excuse of public transit filled with gawkers and requiring her to wonder whether there will be connected sidewalks for her to solve her last-two-mile trip on her chair. "Oh, but Uber and Lyft were brought down by their own greed" Well, where is the non-greedy alternativ…

This is a bit unfair. Yes, the public transit in cali sucks, but there needs to be a minimum standard with how we treat workers. Gig work was initially framed as a side thing where somebody going to the same area as you hops in your car and you share a ride. Like on demand carpooling. That is no longer the case, its people's livelihoods due to economic inequities and lack of normal jobs available to match the demand…

> Gig work should NOT be how people make a living

I don't think I understand this. Why not? Seems like more options besides a traditional 9-5 is a good thing.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by renewiltord »

extra88 wrote: post #767
jedberg wrote: post #755

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've clearly never tried to use a taxi in California.

For the majority who haven't tried to use taxis in California, what's the informative version of this comment?

> They will drive to your location, pick you up, and take you anywhere you want to go.

The corrected version of this is "they will drive to your location some time within the next 24 hours, pick you up if you want to go to the places they want to go, and maybe accept payment in credit card".

Go on. Ask a brown person who lives by Lake Merced what it's like to try to get a taxi there from downtown.

Also, to be clear, I don't have a problem with this. I think you should have a right to transport whomsoever you desire if you can reach a consensual agreement.

But I don't think it's consensual if you ban the alternative.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by Trias11 »

seankimdesign wrote: post #699

Kudos on that moral victory California. You robbed my mobility-impaired younger sister of her legs without providing any alternative. Fuck your sorry excuse of public transit filled with gawkers and requiring her to wonder whether there will be connected sidewalks for her to solve her last-two-mile trip on her chair. "Oh, but Uber and Lyft were brought down by their own greed" Well, where is the non-greedy alternativ…

What a surprising decision made by otherwise wise and well respected CA politicians.

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Post by abstractbarista »

codefreakxff wrote: post #747
seankimdesign wrote: post #699

Kudos on that moral victory California. You robbed my mobility-impaired younger sister of her legs without providing any alternative. Fuck your sorry excuse of public transit filled with gawkers and requiring her to wonder whether there will be connected sidewalks for her to solve her last-two-mile trip on her chair. "Oh, but Uber and Lyft were brought down by their own greed" Well, where is the non-greedy alternativ…

It's called a Taxi. They will drive to your location, pick you up, and take you anywhere you want to go.

Taxis are horrible honestly. I'd rather just not go somewhere than use one instead of Uber/Lyft.

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Post by purple_ferret »

manfredo wrote: post #763
codefreakxff wrote: post #747

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's called a Taxi. They will drive to your location, pick you up, and take you anywhere you want to go.

Right, except now instead of having the option of taxis and ride share companies she can only use taxis which have artificially inflated prices due to constricted supply.

The OP says they can't be profitable and you're saying they're too profitable at the rider's expense.

Which is it?

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Post by acchow »

extra88 wrote: post #756
seankimdesign wrote: post #699

Kudos on that moral victory California. You robbed my mobility-impaired younger sister of her legs without providing any alternative. Fuck your sorry excuse of public transit filled with gawkers and requiring her to wonder whether there will be connected sidewalks for her to solve her last-two-mile trip on her chair. "Oh, but Uber and Lyft were brought down by their own greed" Well, where is the non-greedy alternativ…

> without providing any alternative Taxis still exist. Given the history of Uber and Lyft drivers denying access to riders with wheelchairs, decrying the loss of their services seems weird.

Uber and Lyft were made in San Francisco because the taxis here sucked so badly. Extremely unreliable. Always late. Not enough of them.

Taxis have not gotten better since then.

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Post by [deleted] »

runarberg wrote: post #363
malandrew wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unsure why this is getting downvoted. Anyone who actually follows the money in this debate knows that the unions are very heavily financially invested in this and donate tons of money to the politicians that support anything that increases their power and influence. If unions were truly invested in the best interest of workers instead of the best interest of the union, they would value the desires of the 4/5 of drive…

It is being downvoted because it is making an unsound claim without any backing. Most likely there is not a single explanation, usually issues like these are more complicated then that. There is no consensus on whether unions are more powerful in the US then elsewhere, I’m sure you can easily find examples—or spin the narrative—to back either case. And finally there is no evidence for some ulterior motive of driver’s…

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