Uber and Lyft shutdown in California averted as judge grants emergency stay
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Re: Uber and Lyft shutdown in California averted as judge grants emergency stay
#2Good, this can wait till Covid-19, forest-fires and other urgent matters right now in California have been taken care of.
Re: Uber and Lyft shutdown in California averted as judge grants emergency stay
#3For those wondering why Lyft and Uber doing the shutdown, it's to bully voters into voting their way on Prop 22 in November.
They had two years to adjust their businesses for a proposition approved by voters. They chose to spend nine figures fighting it in the press and the courts.
Re: Uber and Lyft shutdown in California averted as judge grants emergency stay
#4For those wondering why Lyft and Uber doing the shutdown, it's to bully voters into voting their way on Prop 22 in November. They had two years to adjust their businesses for a proposition approved by voters. They chose to spend nine figures fighting it in the press and the courts.
I hope you realize that AB5 will eventually make its way into delivery services too. All those services will cost a lot more then. Are you ready for that? Even if you are, have you thought about low income earners and how they will cope up with this? These are 2 sided marketplaces - just thinking from the driver's standpoint, who mind you have also protested against this since it robs them of flexibility, is missing the point.
I really hope people vote for Prop 22 and kill this awful law which was mostly brought in by unions/taxi drivers to have their way around things.
Re: Uber and Lyft shutdown in California averted as judge grants emergency stay
#5For those wondering why Lyft and Uber doing the shutdown, it's to bully voters into voting their way on Prop 22 in November. They had two years to adjust their businesses for a proposition approved by voters. They chose to spend nine figures fighting it in the press and the courts.
AB5 was a legislative act, not a proposition.
Re: Uber and Lyft shutdown in California averted as judge grants emergency stay
#6"Uber and Lyft say drivers prefer the flexibility of working as freelancers, while labor unions and elected officials contend this deprives them of traditional benefits like health insurance and workers’ compensation."
I was curious about what drivers think. I guess they're not happy [1] but want to be independent contractors still [2].
1. https://therideshareguy.com/uber-driver-survey/
2. (In a May online survey drawing responses from 734 Uber and Lyft drivers nationwide, 71% said they wanted to be independent contractors) https://www.wsj.com/articles/uber-lyft-ordered-to-classify-d...
Re: Uber and Lyft shutdown in California averted as judge grants emergency stay
#7For those wondering why Lyft and Uber doing the shutdown, it's to bully voters into voting their way on Prop 22 in November. They had two years to adjust their businesses for a proposition approved by voters. They chose to spend nine figures fighting it in the press and the courts.
They did not have "years to adjust their businesses" to a changing landscape of demands, the worst-case scenario of which literally destroys their innovation/business.
"You had years to plan for us removing 95% of your business!" is quite the argument.
Re: Uber and Lyft shutdown in California averted as judge grants emergency stay
#8I’m not sure why we need prop22 specifically targeting rideshare drivers instead of just repealing AB5
i know so many people’s whose jobs were destroyed by it and still haven’t found anything else.
Re: Uber and Lyft shutdown in California averted as judge grants emergency stay
#9Uber gained market cap of $4B since this appeal news broke, already spent $100M to fight AB5, all the while they burnt $2B in their last quarter.
And yet their argument is they can't afford to spend $300M to cover driver benefits and pay into state unemployment insurance.
Re: Uber and Lyft shutdown in California averted as judge grants emergency stay
#10I’m not sure why we need prop22 specifically targeting rideshare drivers instead of just repealing AB5 i know so many people’s whose jobs were destroyed by it and still haven’t found anything else.
Can you share the professions of the people you know whose jobs were destroyed?