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Re: The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most Prominent Adversary

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Post by lenkite » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 5:39 PM UTC

trumpersHateMe wrote: post #40

dsabanin wrote: post #20

I was born in Russia and I despise Putin. He is the reason why I emigrated. He and his cronies brough the country into the dark age, from which it may never come out. He is, without a single doubt, Hitler of the 21st century. * He consolidated all the political and judicial power. Destroyed, physically, politically or judicially all the opponents. Elections are completely fake. * He completely controls all secret ser…

That reads like the playbook being used by certain leader we have here in the states.

Who ?

Re: The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most Prominent Adversary

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Post by cmrdporcupine » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 5:39 PM UTC

galkk wrote: post #37

leokennis wrote: post #25

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Can you give an example where Russia is portrayed unfairly?

How about this https://www.polygon.com/2019/10/30/20938550/call-of-duty-mod... Tl;dr American army did carnage, the (one of most popular) game portraits that Russians did that Or entire company of heroes 2 controversy This is pure propaganda

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. That's an awful story.

Re: The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most Prominent Adversary

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Post by ibobev » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 5:39 PM UTC

throwaway122kk wrote: post #31

sjg007 wrote: post #12

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Russia definitely has the talent.

Had Name any political, cultural, economic, literature, sports achievement in last 30 years to come out of Russia. That's right Internet trolls which are an evolution on kgbs psyops

Kotlin[1] programming language?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kotlin_(programming_language)

Re: The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most Prominent Adversary

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Post by mhh__ » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 5:39 PM UTC

mcsb4 wrote: post #54

mhh__ wrote: post #39

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Given that Russia has used a nerve agent near where I live I'll give the media a pass on demonising Russia.

I don't know what happened there but the official version leaves some serious doubts open. For example there was a long time talk of a "nurse" that found them. Only by accident it was revealed that this nurse was the head-nurse of the UK forces, i.e. in the rank of a general, well versed in chemical warfare. Also why was never the full tracks of the two Russians the victims revealed? There is CCTV on every corner in…

The official story would always be vague. This is spook territory not regular police. A Scotland Yard team went to interview Litvinenko's assassins (One of whom was being treated for radiation poisoning - fancy that!), and they were completely outgunned by the FSB.

Also, as to CCTV, it is extremely prevalent in London but not as omniscient in places like Salisbury.

Security services sit on information like this for years, possibly never to reach daylight i.e. it's at best 50/50 whether MI5's director(Hollis) in the 50s and 60s was a double agent for the GRU, but we will never know what is in the archives. It is undeniable, however, that the Russian's did it - a Russian nerve agent just happens to turn up in the middle of Salisbury!?

Re: The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most Prominent Adversary

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Post by qzw » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 5:41 PM UTC

vogre wrote: post #38

analognoise wrote: post #27

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Why would they demonize a place that throws doctors out of windows, poisons political opponents, kills journalists, and has a horrible reputation for LGBT rights? Weird, right? /s

Well Saudi Arabia is hundred times worse than all we have in Russia on every point you mentioned. But guess who get all the sanctions?

Aren’t most of the sanctions related to the annexation of Crimea? Also, SA is an ally who allows a significant US military presence on its soil, in an area of strategic importance to global energy supply. Russia on the other hand still maintains an adversarial posture toward much of the Western world.

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Post by lostmyoldone » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 5:41 PM UTC

jetzzz wrote: post #56

jldugger wrote: post #42

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nginx?

And IntelliJ IDEA of course, which I think many HN visitors are using in one form or another. This still doesn't change the original point that Putin regime has been very damaging to Russia.

It's true that Jetbrains has lots of developers in Russia, but Jetbrains s.r.o is Czech and was founded in Prague under the name Intellij Software.

Re: The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most Prominent Adversary

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Post by boo_boo » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 5:44 PM UTC

nate_meurer wrote: post #60

vogre wrote: post #38

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Well Saudi Arabia is hundred times worse than all we have in Russia on every point you mentioned. But guess who get all the sanctions?

Most of the current sanctions against Russia were a direct response to Russia's paramilitary invasion of a peaceful neighbor and theft of a large portion of their country. If Saudi Arabia were to commit a comparable offense, I assure you they'd face a comparable response, or worse (remember what happened to Saddam Hussein).

You don't consider the situation in Yemen comparable?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention...

Re: The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most Prominent Adversary

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Post by HenryKissinger » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 5:44 PM UTC

mhh__ wrote: post #64

mcsb4 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what happened there but the official version leaves some serious doubts open. For example there was a long time talk of a "nurse" that found them. Only by accident it was revealed that this nurse was the head-nurse of the UK forces, i.e. in the rank of a general, well versed in chemical warfare. Also why was never the full tracks of the two Russians the victims revealed? There is CCTV on every corner in…

The official story would always be vague. This is spook territory not regular police. A Scotland Yard team went to interview Litvinenko's assassins (One of whom was being treated for radiation poisoning - fancy that!), and they were completely outgunned by the FSB. Also, as to CCTV, it is extremely prevalent in London but not as omniscient in places like Salisbury. Security services sit on information like this for y…

> A Scotland Yard team went to interview Litvinenko's assassins (One of whom was being treated for radiation poisoning - fancy that!), and they were completely outgunned by the FSB.

Source?

Re: The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most Prominent Adversary

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Post by notsureaboutpg » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 5:45 PM UTC

hn_check wrote: post #53

vogre wrote: post #38

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Well Saudi Arabia is hundred times worse than all we have in Russia on every point you mentioned. But guess who get all the sanctions?

Saudi Arabia exports oil but apart from that is generally just completely irrelevant. It is a terrible, despotic regressive craphole, but it doesn't have context enough in the world to come up a lot.

Saudi Arabia is the dominant power in the Middle East unquestionably and a close, close US ally. Bush and Bush Sr.'s closest business associates were members of the Saudi ruling family.

Opinions of the society aside, they are a highly relevant power in the world, and I mean a 6th grade level understanding of geopolitics would confirm that.

Re: The Suspected Poisoning of Alexey Navalny, Putin’s Most Prominent Adversary

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Post by WinstonSmith84 » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 5:46 PM UTC

vogre wrote: post #38

analognoise wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they demonize a place that throws doctors out of windows, poisons political opponents, kills journalists, and has a horrible reputation for LGBT rights? Weird, right? /s

Well Saudi Arabia is hundred times worse than all we have in Russia on every point you mentioned. But guess who get all the sanctions?

Really? From which point of view? Arguably true for the Yemenites, but the fact is, no one really care about the Yemenites (sorry if there are Yemenites reading that but it's a fact). Saudi Arabia doesn't try to interfere with any western European country, neither militarily nor in their politics...