2,445 IBM Employees Openly Condemned IBM for Enabling Racist Regimes

Post by bluedevil2k » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 1:41 PM UTC

humanrebar wrote: post #13

supergeek133 wrote: post #9

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But that's the whole issue. Policy versus practice. I'm usually hard pressed to find people who disagree with the thought of "we should try to hire people other than white men in a white men dominated profession". The issue comes when the unspoken (OP's "off the record") enforcement of this is willful hate towards those people.

I disagree that the existing diversity in tech is best described as "white". Tech has a lot of diversity. It's that some groups, especially women, are still underrepresented.

Post by AlexTWithBeard » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 1:42 PM UTC

TeaDrunk wrote: post #6

CincinnatiMan wrote: post #3

> (2) Expand our diversity recruitment programs specifically targeting women, people of color, and LGBT people with the goal of doubling recruitment of these groups in 2017 and steadily increasing the share of these groups as a proportion of new hiring in subsequent years. Initiatives like this worry me that we'll end up like my previous employer where we were off-the-record instructed not to hire a white male for ou…

Yes, “don’t hire white men” is a much different policy than “please increase your funnel and hire more non white cis hereto men”. I would argue your previous employer more or less just misses the point of these things.

Post by zerr » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 1:43 PM UTC

CincinnatiMan wrote: post #3

> (2) Expand our diversity recruitment programs specifically targeting women, people of color, and LGBT people with the goal of doubling recruitment of these groups in 2017 and steadily increasing the share of these groups as a proportion of new hiring in subsequent years. Initiatives like this worry me that we'll end up like my previous employer where we were off-the-record instructed not to hire a white male for ou…

Post by augustt » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 1:47 PM UTC

raxxorrax wrote: post #14

CincinnatiMan wrote: post #3

> (2) Expand our diversity recruitment programs specifically targeting women, people of color, and LGBT people with the goal of doubling recruitment of these groups in 2017 and steadily increasing the share of these groups as a proportion of new hiring in subsequent years. Initiatives like this worry me that we'll end up like my previous employer where we were off-the-record instructed not to hire a white male for ou…

This is actually structural racism in contrast to attesting it on society or some specific people. Honestly, I think this letter is quite weak. To see Trump as a racist is a result of medial smear campaigns. He might have a foul mouth, but I have different definition of what constitutes a racist. You can have countless reasons to dislike Trump, but he is no racist. Maybe the signers of this letters are.

Post by AlexTWithBeard » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 1:48 PM UTC

TeaDrunk wrote: post #24

AlexTWithBeard wrote: post #19

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How about "we should try to hire more asian men in black women dominated fields"?

Equivalencies do exist. There’s a large push to have more men in fields such as nursing and child care.