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Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by lucb1e »

DoreenMichele wrote: post #45
toast0 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Do you know how much $100 is in Iran? It doesn't really matter, because for developers in Iran, the question becomes do you know how hard it is to pay US companies from Iran?

The minute you admit you are in Iran, American companies aren't supposed to sell to you, generally speaking. So, yeah, that seems like a weird comment.

Let's take the spirit of the message and generalize that to countries that are not rich (aka level 4 countries: https://www.gatesnotes.com/Books/Factfulness#incomegroups).

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by [deleted] »

saagarjha wrote: post #32
yaur wrote: post #24

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I believe this is bubbling up because apple recently revoked Epic's certificate (sorry if that isn't quite the right term) and these are now the steps required to run Fortnight on Mac.

Technically Apple has (or will) terminate Epic's developer program access, which means that they will no longer be able to sign new builds. They have not revoked the certificate at this time, so those binaries should still continue to run until the certificates expire.

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Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by badsectoracula »

cuddlybacon wrote: post #6

This feature is at about the right spot for me. It is still convenient enough for me to run software I want that isn't signed, but sufficiently obtuse that neither of my parents have figured it out. Given they are both prone to running any executable that any website tells them to download and run, this feature has probably save me several dozen hours of fixing their computers.

Well, yes, until you get to the point where (as the article shows) you cannot run unsigned applications on Apple Silicon. How much more slippery does this slope needs to get?

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by hu3 »

saagarjha wrote: post #75
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #51

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I just looked it up, and it seems like $100 is worth less than half a week of an average developers salary in Iran.

$100 can be an hour of a developer's salary here, or even less. The relative cost is quite large. (Oh, and guess who isn't making a developer's salary in Iran? Someone who is just starting out, or an open source developer, or someone who is currently unemployed…)

Exactly. Consulting jobs in London often pay $500+/day if you know what you're doing.

$100 for half a week of work would be a lot. People who think otherwise live in a bubble.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by badsectoracula »

saagarjha wrote: post #63
ryandrake wrote: post #30

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It seems like the right balance. As the author says: > As a Mac developer, it's nearly impossible to run a viable software business when this is the first-run experience of new customers. You'll never get any new customers! This is why every Mac developer I know signs up for Developer ID and ships only signed, notarized apps. It would be financial suicide to do otherwise. If you have hung your shingle out to make a p…

I would generally like my open-source software not not be marked as malware.

I would generally like my software, regardless of it is open source or not, not be marked as malware when it is not malware.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

saagarjha wrote: post #75
dec0dedab0de wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just looked it up, and it seems like $100 is worth less than half a week of an average developers salary in Iran.

$100 can be an hour of a developer's salary here, or even less. The relative cost is quite large. (Oh, and guess who isn't making a developer's salary in Iran? Someone who is just starting out, or an open source developer, or someone who is currently unemployed…)

But if youre just starting out or only releasing your code for free, then you're not a "viable software business", which is what the article was complaining about.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by lucb1e »

turblety wrote: post #20

This is just a cash grab from Apple, and part of a series of unethical behaviour by a monopoly (eg app store dictatorship). This would be totally unnessisary if apps could run in a sandbox. It wouldn't matter if I run some random game I downloaded off the internet if it can't do anything on my computer outside of its own sandbox. And to the people that say it's not possible, just look at web browsers. Each website ru…

That's actually an interesting way of looking at the problem of untrusted code. We might still need a way to signal to people what pop-ups really mean so we avoid the blindly yes-yes-continue clicking, but in general if things are as sandboxed as they are on mobile (sans the sensor and network access that still allows you to do a million invasive things, so perhaps more like websites where the software is closed when you close it) then we might not need this sort of scheme.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by saagarjha »

hu3 wrote: post #84
saagarjha wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$100 can be an hour of a developer's salary here, or even less. The relative cost is quite large. (Oh, and guess who isn't making a developer's salary in Iran? Someone who is just starting out, or an open source developer, or someone who is currently unemployed…)

Exactly. Consulting jobs in London often pay $500+/day if you know what you're doing. $100 for half a week of work would be a lot. People who think otherwise live in a bubble.

I think you're trying to agree with me, but I don't think I've made a point for you to agree with. At least, it's probably not yours.

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by lucb1e »

nextaccountic wrote: post #76
oneplane wrote: post #15

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Open source projects sign their Apps like anyone else. Works fine. They do the same on Windows of course and on Linux package managers.

Is there any Linux distribution charging an yearly fee for package signing?

Android? (Mostly joking, but it is Linux-based even if not a regular distribution and iirc Play Store "vetting" costs money as well.)

Re: Can't you just right click?

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Post by saagarjha »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #86
saagarjha wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$100 can be an hour of a developer's salary here, or even less. The relative cost is quite large. (Oh, and guess who isn't making a developer's salary in Iran? Someone who is just starting out, or an open source developer, or someone who is currently unemployed…)

But if youre just starting out or only releasing your code for free, then you're not a "viable software business", which is what the article was complaining about.

You know who needs to get new customers (the next sentence in the paragraph you took the quote from)? People bootstrapping a software business.
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