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AppCode: Objective-C IDE from JetBrains goes public

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Re: AppCode: Objective-C IDE from JetBrains goes public

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Post by mrbrandonking »

I've wished many times for ReSharper-like refactoring in Xcode. Now JetBrains (the ReSharper people) have announced CIDR, an Objective-C IDE.

Apparently CIDR is still at an early stage (pre-beta even) and doesn't yet support debugging on a physical device, but I still take this as great news. I think allowing developers to download and try CIDR now will give JetBrains the feedback they need to deliver a great finished product.

Re: AppCode: Objective-C IDE from JetBrains goes public

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Post by rodh257 »

JetBrains does a lot of good things. The fact that they bring their ideas to a number of different languages is a great thing. Resharper, IntelliJ, RubyMine, PyCharm, Phpstorm and now AppCode - you could stick purely to Jetbrains products and have a familiar IDE layout and functionality for the various different application development tasks you undertake.

Re: AppCode: Objective-C IDE from JetBrains goes public

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Post by stevejohnson »

At first I was excited that Xcode had some competition, so I downloaded this as soon as it was available.

Unfortunately, it has a crappy Java-generic GUI. For an IDE for a platform that makes a big deal out of user experience, it really looks awful. (And it manages to be slower than Xcode 4!)

I understand that tools don't have to be pretty to be functional, but I draw the line here.

Re: AppCode: Objective-C IDE from JetBrains goes public

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Post by frou_dh »

stevejohnson wrote: post #6

At first I was excited that Xcode had some competition, so I downloaded this as soon as it was available. Unfortunately, it has a crappy Java-generic GUI. For an IDE for a platform that makes a big deal out of user experience, it really looks awful. (And it manages to be slower than Xcode 4!) I understand that tools don't have to be pretty to be functional, but I draw the line here.

Same deal with MonoDevelop. These alien GUIs look absolutely miserable in OS X alongside the system and all the tastefully done third party native apps you have running.

Re: AppCode: Objective-C IDE from JetBrains goes public

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Post by jasonlotito »

frou_dh wrote: post #7
stevejohnson wrote: post #6

At first I was excited that Xcode had some competition, so I downloaded this as soon as it was available. Unfortunately, it has a crappy Java-generic GUI. For an IDE for a platform that makes a big deal out of user experience, it really looks awful. (And it manages to be slower than Xcode 4!) I understand that tools don't have to be pretty to be functional, but I draw the line here.

Same deal with MonoDevelop. These alien GUIs look absolutely miserable in OS X alongside the system and all the tastefully done third party native apps you have running.

Unfortunately, outside of xcode, their is no other competition. No other IDE comes close. Considering this release is a pre-beta (and not some faux-beta popular with web two point oh startups these days). Having used other Jetbrains products, I'm fairly certain that when all is said and done, the final product will be solid IDE.

Re: AppCode: Objective-C IDE from JetBrains goes public

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Post by msbarnett »

jasonlotito wrote: post #8
frou_dh wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same deal with MonoDevelop. These alien GUIs look absolutely miserable in OS X alongside the system and all the tastefully done third party native apps you have running.

Unfortunately, outside of xcode, their is no other competition. No other IDE comes close. Considering this release is a pre-beta (and not some faux-beta popular with web two point oh startups these days). Having used other Jetbrains products, I'm fairly certain that when all is said and done, the final product will be solid IDE.

> Having used other Jetbrains products, I'm fairly certain that when all is said and done, the final product will be solid IDE.

It probably will be solid, but having used their other products on the Mac (RubyMine, IntelliJ), it's probably never going to get any less java-ugly or feel any more native.

And I think that's likely to be more of a problem for potential users of AppCode vs RubyMine or IntelliJ users on the Mac. Because its target market is either established Mac developers who care about the conventions and tastes prevalent in Mac software, and thus find AppCode ugly and alien in function, or users of other JetBrains products getting started with Mac development, for whom AppCode might feel familiar but will be a barrier to learning about the conventions and tastes prevalent in Mac software, leading them to produce sub-par experiences with the product.

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