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Re: Remote work is reshaping San Francisco, as tech workers flee and rents fall

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"We can only give them a citation"? I think a big part of the issue is that the police almost never even do that much. They do zero . If you try to call this stuff in, they laugh at you.

Because it would be a complete waste of time. The people have voted to decriminalize vehicle break-ins. Making the police to go through the motions when nothing's going to happen to the perpetrator would just be a waste of your own tax money.

>The people have voted to decriminalize vehicle break-ins

BINGO! Isn't there a really, really old saying about not crapping where you sleep?

Re: Remote work is reshaping San Francisco, as tech workers flee and rents fall

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It seems very tough to draw any conclusions on this just yet. The media has clearly latched onto a storyline of a mass exodus from American cities, but the reality is probably much more complex. It seems plausible that SF already had such low inventory numbers that any change would look huge on a chart like this, though that doesn’t appear to be the case in the other highly competitive markets seen here. I’d love to…

Anecdotally, I've received a huge number of DM's, emails, and even, texts, somehow, about people wanting to know the details about how I moved out of the US. I've met some very interesting people, all but one moving from the bay area.

Out of curiosity where did you move to?

Re: Remote work is reshaping San Francisco, as tech workers flee and rents fall

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Anecdotally, I've received a huge number of DM's, emails, and even, texts, somehow, about people wanting to know the details about how I moved out of the US. I've met some very interesting people, all but one moving from the bay area.

Out of curiosity where did you move to?

I live in the Netherlands. My son was 3 when we moved here; he's about to turn 6 and speaks Dutch fluently. I'm still working on it :)

Re: Remote work is reshaping San Francisco, as tech workers flee and rents fall

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I don't think you are reading the parent poster. Tokyo was probably rubble in 1945 then it re-invented itself into a world-class city. Hong Kong was (probably still is for now) a world class city for the rich and the free and now is on path to become a hell-hole for both. Cities swing through a pendulum of up and down. SF might be going to ruins but it'll be back. It might have to reach rock-bottom first before re-in…

Tokyo absolutely took advantage of that clean slate, but San Francisco's issues don't seem to be related to physical infrastructure.

You kidding me? Physical infrastructure is absolutely central to the issue. Demand to live in SF skyrocketed but the city responded by resisting any expansion of its housing stock. To claim that doesn’t have an impact on the affordability in the city, which in turn affects whether or not people can afford to live in a home there, is madness.

Re: Remote work is reshaping San Francisco, as tech workers flee and rents fall

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If you think San Francisco has poor quality food, you clearly haven’t spent much time there (as you admit) or you don’t have very discerning taste. California grows the majority of the country’s produce and most everyone else is getting the same ingredients a few days later. Farm to table is the standard instead of something that starts at $25/plate like in most US cities The city could be more dense in some areas bu…

The majority of the country's produce? I call bullshit.

If you're going to call out people for "bullshit" when they post facts you could easily Google, then you could at least apologize after you were shown to be both wrong and rude.

Re: Remote work is reshaping San Francisco, as tech workers flee and rents fall

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San Francisco has functional public transit which escapes almost every American city and the cool neighborhoods are in fact quite dense, like the Mission. This is why people view it as one of the most walkable cities in America even though it may not be a compact area built around a train station like much of Europe, for example. I would like that, but that’s not how any of America is. You went to a few sushi roll pl…

i did not go to mission, so my comment about density may not be correct. which is why i asked. that's one neighborhood though. as far as sake.. i don't drink anymore, for a while now, but you're wrong. serving it warm brings out the taste, and makes any cheap nastiness worse. serving it cold is what hides it. having a store that only sells sake does not make it 'the store for sake.' there are many stores stateside th…

Once again, the Japanese know very well that a nice polished sake like a Junmai Daiginjo will be served cold.

https://boutiquejapan.com/sake101/#:~:text=At%20the%20risk%2...

"At the risk of overgeneralizing, many sake experts say that ginjo and daiginjo sakes are usually best not warmed (since being served chilled enhances their flavors and aromas)"

It is bizarre you go on these rants about how people on Hacker News aren't cultured like you after all your time in foreign cities, but you didn't visit the main neighborhoods, chose a few bad restaurants on Yelp, and clearly don't know how the locals prefer to drink their sake even after bragging about all your experience. Since you don't even drink, maybe you should listen to the people who do and who have toured the sake factories.

Way to be totally obnoxious and ruin the normally polite discourse here. You're posting on a brand new account and already getting flagged for abusive posting. You're not even trying to have a productive conversation. Go argue with people on Reddit.

Re: Remote work is reshaping San Francisco, as tech workers flee and rents fall

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I'm not sure what you're comparing it to, SF is known to have a world-class food scene. There are multiple examples all of the things you listed(except maybe british but who wants that?), as well as things that you don't find in may other cities: burmese, cambodian, laotian, peruvian.

>> SF is known to have a world-class food scene. Exactly. It is known to have a scene . It is a great place for people who like to go to restaurants. For people who like good food, not so much. I remember going to a tea tasting in SF's chinatown while at a conference there. My friend (a local) asked if we had such good tea in Vancouver. The shop owner who was serving us interrupted: "They do. My brother has a shop th…

Really not sure what your point is here. Name cities in North America that have 10+ legitimate Burmese restaurants. If you want to try good Burmese food, it really helps to have local Burmese restaurants. The last time I was at a Burmese restaurant in San Francisco, the waitress told me a lot of the staff was in Burma for the month finding new flavors and ideas for recipes. In most cities there is no chance that the wait staff at your local ethnic restaurant is actively going back to Burma every year to get new recipes and ingredients.

Since you mentioned Vancouver, I searched for Burmese food on Yelp. Only 7 restaurants total come back total.

2 are "Burmese / Thai / Malaysian" Asian fusion places Three of 3 are a generic Asian chain called Noodlebox that has one item called "Burmese naan" 1 is a Thai restaurant with one "Burmese curry" dish 1 is a Vietnamese restaurant that mentions its near one of the Burmese / Thai / Malaysian fusion restaurants

So Yelp has 7 total Burmese restaurants in Vancouver, not one of them is actually Burmese, and almost all of them don't even have Burmese dishes (where is the tea leaf salad? Burmese naan doesn't count)

So you can act like San Francisco is just known for having a food scene, but when you don't even have access to many of the same world cuisines in other cities it is hard for me to take you seriously when you say its not a place for people who like "good food."

You know the majority of American produce is grown in California? Do the vegetables get better when they're shipped for a few days to the east coast?

Re: Remote work is reshaping San Francisco, as tech workers flee and rents fall

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as someone who's lived in SF for years this is all very true. Food is expensive and a lot of it's designed to be instagrammed. There are definitely some great spots but not that many and really not that diverse (lacks middle eastern, greek, british, American bbq, spanish) Nightlife is horrible, bars pretty much close at 1am, hardly any live music, gender imbalance, and not much density so it often just feels "dead" i…

> There are definitely some great spots but not that many and really not that diverse (lacks middle eastern, greek, british, American bbq, spanish) I've personally had great examples of all of those except Spanish in SF (and that exception may be because I've never sought out Spanish in SF.)

Piperade is a destination for Basque food

Re: Remote work is reshaping San Francisco, as tech workers flee and rents fall

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Only because of how insane housing in SF is. For comparison I own a 2br apartment in Melbourne, Australia. It takes about 15 minutes to walk from here to the heart of the city. My mortgage repayments (including interest) are about $700usd/month.

I'm calling BS on this. I lived in Melbourne for the past 5 years (left 8 month ago) and never saw any 2br apartment that would be that cheap with a standard P+I loan with 10% down. I guess it's possible if you took out an interest-only loan for only a fraction of the purchase price, but then you've painted a highly misleading picture.

To clarify they don't live "in Melbourne", they live in the outer suburbs. Sure, you can buy a 2BR apartment in Dandenong. Do you really want to?
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