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Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page

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Don't what to transform this to Whataboutism but it really annoys me that I can't uninstall the apps on OSX which are clearly optional: TV, Podcasts, Music, Garageband, Safari etc etc. Was actually excited about iTunes splitting into multiple apps because I was expecting to be able to split up the app size into optionals that I could remove - nope

Actually, you can do this. Disable System Integrity Protection, run ‘mount -uw /‘, and delete away.

Re: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page

#52

Reasonable restriction. Web browsers are so tightly integrated with so many software that they should be considered an essential part of the OS.

It’s possible to provide WebView APIs without doing what MS did with their browser as a whole.

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What if your router needs some manual configuration through the web interface? I'm not convinced there is much to gain from letting Edge be uninstalled through normal means as long as it's not consuming resources other than some disk space when you're not using it.

Anything stopping them including the installer with windows?

But then what's the difference between edge being installed and merely not-yet-unpacked? Like, it's still there. The installer could just create a shortcut and say that it's installed now, would that be enough? Seems silly.

Re: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page

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This is a pretty sane move on MS's part... I find it reasonable that an OS doesn't let you remove what may be the only browser on the system, for a lot of reasons. I read this as a push to really ditch IE in the very near future, and don't really mind at all. In no particular order - Something has to provide a native webview for desktop applications - MS has no default package manager for users, and doesn't provide b…

> So removing the browser may leave a user unable to bootstrap another browser onto the system (at least once IE is actually gone) without outside help or another machine. Invoke-WebRequest 'https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest-ssl&os=win64&lang=en-US' -OutFile firefox-latest.exe

Which is a complex string you need to google, as opposed to the cli command that easily uninstalls edge. How will you download this if you just moved out of your mom's house and bought a laptop and a router? How do you set up that router? Displaying a web page is part of the core os. You don't have to use explorer.exe as a file manager either, nor /bin/sh.

Re: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page

#56
I'm failing to see the reason for outrage here. Apple won't allow removing Safari from macOS without turning off system protection and then it will get reinstalled next OS upgrade. Heck you can't even remove the chess game on macOS without turning off system protection.

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I even let Edge be the default browser. That way, whenever an app opens a link, it opens in a browser I don't use, and it can't read any important information or browser fingerprint that matters. I am still using Firefox for my browsing needs. EDIT: It's more about my browsing habits: Now this browser has been opened. I can close it before the page loads and before I have read anything I really don't care about.

If you can't trust the apps that you're running on an unsandboxed system , getting fingerprinted should be the least of your worries. Since there's no sandbox, it could very well keylog everything you type, or steal your browsing history/login cookies directly from your browser.

Well, some applications open a webpage just when the uninstallation finishes.

Basically every single browser window that is open from an application, or its uninstaller, is an unwanted one.

It's not even about the fingerprinting, now that you make me think about.

It's more about my browsing habits: Now this browser has been opened. I can close it before the page loads and before I have read anything I really don't care about.

Re: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page

#58

This is a pretty sane move on MS's part... I find it reasonable that an OS doesn't let you remove what may be the only browser on the system, for a lot of reasons. I read this as a push to really ditch IE in the very near future, and don't really mind at all. In no particular order - Something has to provide a native webview for desktop applications - MS has no default package manager for users, and doesn't provide b…

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Re: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page

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This is a pretty sane move on MS's part... I find it reasonable that an OS doesn't let you remove what may be the only browser on the system, for a lot of reasons. I read this as a push to really ditch IE in the very near future, and don't really mind at all. In no particular order - Something has to provide a native webview for desktop applications - MS has no default package manager for users, and doesn't provide b…

I call b.s. on that. Edge does actively check and scrape data from other browsers so it knows it isn't the last or default browser. You don't need a browser to use a windows workstation with pre-installed productivity apps. You might find edge itself is undesirable on your systems because people try to use it to access sites and you din't to support edge operationally or vulnerability management.

I thought the 90s anti-trust lawsuit against MS was exactly about this?

Re: Microsoft’s ‘can’t uninstall Microsoft Edge’ support page

#60

Maybe I’m in a minority, but it’s really a pretty good browser. I wish it supported a few more features with the PDF reader (such as text box annotations). However, it still has way more features in that space than most competitors.

I tend to agree. It's a great PDF reader, and seems snappy on the web overall. The only reason I'm sticking with Chrome for the latter is basically laziness and Google ecosystem buy-in.
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