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How China’s Expanding Fishing Fleet Is Depleting the World’s Oceans

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It caused harn because it was stupidly implemented not because it's generally bad. But btw. many western countries have a shrinking population since years to a degree where that's an problem. But this also means that the countries which have to take (reasonable) actions include many contribute which often can't afford more reasonable actions :/

There's no population bomb. Let's please lay Malthus to rest already. According to some projections, world population will peak sometime in the 2040s and then start to decline.

But one reasons why the projection is that way is because countries do nudge people to not having explosive growth by all kind of measures.

Some as simple as reducing poverty.

Some by making it most viable to have one or two children.

Some (China) by limiting the number of children to roughly two.

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Not all of this policies are good, not all are intentionally made to have that effect.

Still if you want to shrink a countries populations there are much more ways then a hard limit to the number of children (Which I think will hardly ever play out well.).

Re: How China’s Expanding Fishing Fleet Is Depleting the World’s Oceans

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post #109

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There's no population bomb. Let's please lay Malthus to rest already. According to some projections, world population will peak sometime in the 2040s and then start to decline.

But one reasons why the projection is that way is because countries do nudge people to not having explosive growth by all kind of measures. Some as simple as reducing poverty. Some by making it most viable to have one or two children. Some (China) by limiting the number of children to roughly two. ... Not all of this policies are good, not all are intentionally made to have that effect. Still if you want to shrink a…

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Global sterilization of all people by molecular-genetic means. Then temporarily unsterilizing by winning the lottery, points, ability score, merit, money, whatever... Simple, innit?

No, you must consider regional differences. Any law which is not doing so and just enact it the same for any larger region (the world, or just whole of china) is bound to fail big time.

Chemtrails!

Re: How China’s Expanding Fishing Fleet Is Depleting the World’s Oceans

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> bad news generator Well someone has to choose what bad news to highlight and how biased to highlight said news. For example, per capita, Taiwan and S.Korea have larger DWF fleets, Taiwan significantly so. Factor in EEZ and you get a good idea of why. China: 1400m ppl / 3000 dwf fleet / 900,000km2 eez (3.8m with disputes) Taiwan: 24m / 414 / 90,000km2 Japan: 162m / 162 / 4,500,000km2 S.Korea: 52m / 198 / 300,00km2 S…

Except if you even read the first line of the article, China has an unreported additional DWF fleet of another 14,000 vessels.

I read the actual study. It counts any vessel that crossed out of Chinese EEZ during the year to be DWF which is a stupid metric. Further Chinese EEZ was undefined which is a gross oversight. Does the count include vessels operating in SCS within China's 9dash bounds? Obviously China wouldn't categorize vessels in her "domestic" waters are DWF. This distinction is as least worth a mentioning but the paper glosses over it entirely. It's typical lazy reporting based on poor research.

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> Animal husbandry is a great way of converting inputs unfit for human consumption (animal feed) into something that is (meat) but it’s never very efficient. Ideally, yes. In practice, we feed animals mostly things that we ourselves could eat ourselves - like corn, soy, and grains. Sure, you can find cute examples of cattle eating grass on rocky soil... but around 99% of animals are not grown that way... they are gro…

Soy isn't very appetizing to humans in large quantities, so if it wasn't for animal feed, we wouldn't' grow nearly as much as it. Likewise for corn, which is a not so great staple for humans, and often just used as a sugar substitute. Yes, we can live on animal feed, but we can't really thrive on it, and a lot of land is only suited to such. Meat is still a useful medium for converting what humans can't consume very…

> but they have bigger problems to worry about

The undeveloped world or the pigs?

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