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Re: Apple announces Apple Music radio

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They've been running Beats 1 for the last 5 years (now rebranding to just Apple Music 1). I like the idea of a pop & pop-adjacent radio station with a lot of different shows for different subgenres (it's obviously patterned after BBC Radio 1), but it never seemed to have the "right" mix of variety, and unlike Radio 1 it didn't really have any tentpole stuff to center around (like e.g. Essential Mix), just a lot of ra…

Beats 1 has some incredible shows but the live stream was always a bit odd due to the eclectic mix. I hope this is a tweak - they had a really interesting take on radio compared to say SiriusXM.

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Apple today announced two new live global radio offerings

...and that's where you lost me.

Global radio doesn't work. Hundreds of companies and thousands of people have tried it, and it's never worked. People are different all over, they're not the same, so they don't all want the same thing.

I stopped listening to the BBC World Service when it stopped being about Britain and started being "The world's radio station™," because it just got boring and repetitive.

"Centralcasting" is what almost killed radio in America the 1990's. Jacor/Clear Channel ate hundreds of stations across the country and had a computer in Kentucky decide what music should be played for an entire nation. It didn't work. People flocked to iPods and streaming to get away from the homogeny. Those stations that kept true to their local content survived, and some thrived.

Even Sirius learned this with its satellite radio stations, and the DJs no longer pretend to be some monolithic continental presence in the sky, and instead talk about wherever they're broadcasting from, and some even bend the playlist to match their geography, so it changes through the day as they switch from a host in Detroit to one in Boston to one in DC to one in L.A. When I was in broadcasting it was called a POD — Point Of Difference. Why can DJ A give me that DJ B can't?

KCSN/Northidge and WXRT/Chicago are both AAA radio stations, but they don't play the same songs. They're tailored to what their LOCAL audiences like. That's a good thing. Apple Global Mega Huge Music One has no local audience, and zero feedback other than a subscriber count.

When I listen to a pop station in London, I hear different music than when I listen to a pop station in Los Angeles or Melbourne. That's good. I listen to music from stations all over the world, and in genres I don't ordinarily like, simply because I enjoy the discovery of new songs and artists that I never heard of.

Apple has enough money to keep this online for a very long time, even if no one listens. But why? Who is it good for? Aside from a branding exercise, or trying to give one more checkmark for its bundled services package, what's the point?

Re: Apple announces Apple Music radio

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They've been running Beats 1 for the last 5 years (now rebranding to just Apple Music 1). I like the idea of a pop & pop-adjacent radio station with a lot of different shows for different subgenres (it's obviously patterned after BBC Radio 1), but it never seemed to have the "right" mix of variety, and unlike Radio 1 it didn't really have any tentpole stuff to center around (like e.g. Essential Mix), just a lot of ra…

My expectation is the renewed interest in radio stations is part of an attempt to make the rumored Apple One offering more attractive.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-13/apple-rea...

Re: Apple announces Apple Music radio

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Apple today announced two new live global radio offerings ...and that's where you lost me. Global radio doesn't work. Hundreds of companies and thousands of people have tried it, and it's never worked. People are different all over, they're not the same, so they don't all want the same thing. I stopped listening to the BBC World Service when it stopped being about Britain and started being "The world's radio station™…

If they were being globally-minded about these "global" stations, Country would not be the second station they make. What a misfire.

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i’ve used apple music for a couple of months and i don’t understand why people use it compared to spotify. the UI is awful and buggy. the UX is horrific.

I agree with all of this, and I still use Apple Music. My only reason is that it offers fairly seamless integration between your existing library mp3s and the streaming stuff. Spotify is leagues behind in this regard, my assumption is that it's on purpose because their goal is to get people to stream as much as possible.

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They need to re-ramp the UI/UX on Apple music app. I have been using it for fairly long time and you can see how other competition like Youtube/Spotify have much nicer recommendations and ease of use. Some sort of streamline and unification needs to happen.

Spotify's automated recommendations seemed okay for me at first, but since I spend most of my time using spotify while working, I think the algorithm decided I'm really into instrumental or ambient music that isn't too complicated and that's all I get now.

Where Spotify really did a good job was just having artists create curated playlists that you can take. I'm amazed Apple doesn't do this more. They have "Inspirations" playlists that are kind of stuff that influenced a specific hit album, but they're clearly curated by someone at Apple.

I guess what I'm asking for is for them to recreate Ping, but make it good this time. Haha

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i’ve used apple music for a couple of months and i don’t understand why people use it compared to spotify. the UI is awful and buggy. the UX is horrific.

Spotify's emphasis on podcasts and other forms of media kills the experience for me. Apple Music is more of a final destination, I use many other sites for discovery and rarely make or update playlists - I think it excels in library management. The one thing I do find horrific is how it tries to 'prefer' original lp's vs remasters.

Re: Apple announces Apple Music radio

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I try Apple Music about once a year. Only when they are offering a free trial. I always cancel the trial quickly. Apple Music is just bad. Ignoring my experience with a privacy violation that still makes me question Apple's commitment to privacy, nothing about Apple Music is enticing. Ignoring the confusing UI, music discovery is awful. Apple has a large selection of songs it can pull from to know what I do and do no…

I have to disagree pretty strongly. I have both Spotify and Apple Music, and the latter has spot on recommendations, sound quality, and the far better UX for me. Probably 80% of my listening time is in Apple Music. TIDAL seems better for lossless/master quality in my stereo setup but is really expensive, so I only sign up occasionally. The only reason I use Spotify is sharing playlists with friends or on social media…

I just opened up Apple Music to see if it changed much. I tapped on a song to play. Instead of playing, I got a full screen ad.

A full screen ad. For Apple Music. The app I'm in.

Edit: And I want to make sure I'm clear here. I pay for iTunes Match. I have a nice music library, and it's in iTunes, so I like having it with me where I go when I want to listen to something from that. So, I'm in Apple Music, trying to play music I own. And it's synced through a service I've already paid for. And Apple has the audacity to ask for more money? Stop me from playing my music after I've already paid them and deal with an annoying full-screen popup Ad.

Opened Spotify, and is synced up with what my Desktop is doing.

It's fine you disagree. It's just Apple has done everything they can to make me hate using Music.

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