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Re: Google: Open Letter to Australians

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Link to the draft law is below [0]. Quoted from that page: >The code also includes a set of ‘minimum standards’ for: >providing advance notice of changes to algorithmic ranking and presentation of news; appropriately recognising original news content; and >providing information about how and when Google and Facebook make available user data collected through users’ interactions with news content. This sounds great to…

As somebody who works on ranking and personalization products, I can confidently assure you that you would not prefer a less personalized experience. You don't have to take my word for it though, you can opt-out of personalization on Google here: https://myactivity.google.com/activitycontrols Try it for a month and see if you prefer it.

I definitely prefer it.

Re: Google: Open Letter to Australians

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post #221

Open comment from an Australian to google: "Pay your f#$king tax like the rest of us or shut the f%$ck up." This comment stands apart from any and all implications of their special interest policy pleadings above which are all pretty tedious in comparison. Google don't pay tax for profit made selling in Australia. To hell with them and literally any case they have to make.

> Google don't pay tax for profit made selling in Australia.

And why should they if they don’t operate in Australia?

If I, as a European, sell something to an Australian from which I profit, should I be paying an Australian tax on this sale?

Re: Google: Open Letter to Australians

#403

From the letter: > We’ve always treated all website owners fairly when it comes to information we share about ranking. Really? https://twitter.com/methode/status/1166643751659429888 > The law would force us to give an unfair advantage to one group of businesses - news media businesses - over everyone else who has a website, YouTube channel or small business Google is concerned it can no longer pick winners and losers…

> Really? https://twitter.com/methode/status/1166643751659429888

What is this about? I can’t tell from the tweet.

Re: Google: Open Letter to Australians

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post #402
post #221

Open comment from an Australian to google: "Pay your f#$king tax like the rest of us or shut the f%$ck up." This comment stands apart from any and all implications of their special interest policy pleadings above which are all pretty tedious in comparison. Google don't pay tax for profit made selling in Australia. To hell with them and literally any case they have to make.

> Google don't pay tax for profit made selling in Australia. And why should they if they don’t operate in Australia? If I, as a European, sell something to an Australian from which I profit, should I be paying an Australian tax on this sale?

What if you as a European (company) employ 1000 Australians in Australia and have Australia specific resources (including sales) in Australia and use those Australian resources exclusively for Australia.. are you still not operating in Australia?

Re: Google: Open Letter to Australians

#405
post #402
post #221

Open comment from an Australian to google: "Pay your f#$king tax like the rest of us or shut the f%$ck up." This comment stands apart from any and all implications of their special interest policy pleadings above which are all pretty tedious in comparison. Google don't pay tax for profit made selling in Australia. To hell with them and literally any case they have to make.

> Google don't pay tax for profit made selling in Australia. And why should they if they don’t operate in Australia? If I, as a European, sell something to an Australian from which I profit, should I be paying an Australian tax on this sale?

Completely forgot in the other comment but your product would be subject to GST, which is a tax. I can't imagine Google paying GST %s on their Australian ad sales, but it's a starting point.

Re: Google: Open Letter to Australians

#406
post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google complies with all the relevant laws. If Australians want Google to pay more taxes, they should change the tax laws to make them pay more taxes.

Is this what Google is complaining about, changing laws?

If this law was a tax, you would be correct, but this is a law to force Google to pay news corp

Re: Google: Open Letter to Australians

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just some relevant context to that page, the person there left Google and is now running for office, so I would think twice about the claims they make.

> ...running for office, so I would think twice about the claims they make. Google is among the highest spending tech lobbyists. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/09/google-is-techs-top-spender-...

I'm not sure how that's relevant to what I said? Just because Google lobbies doesn't mean this person doesn't have ulterior motives for making a whole page attacking Google.

Re: Google: Open Letter to Australians

#408
post #403

From the letter: > We’ve always treated all website owners fairly when it comes to information we share about ranking. Really? https://twitter.com/methode/status/1166643751659429888 > The law would force us to give an unfair advantage to one group of businesses - news media businesses - over everyone else who has a website, YouTube channel or small business Google is concerned it can no longer pick winners and losers…

> Really? https://twitter.com/methode/status/1166643751659429888 What is this about? I can’t tell from the tweet.

it is a google employee picking a winner of an algo update

Re: Google: Open Letter to Australians

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...running for office, so I would think twice about the claims they make. Google is among the highest spending tech lobbyists. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/09/google-is-techs-top-spender-...

I'm not sure how that's relevant to what I said? Just because Google lobbies doesn't mean this person doesn't have ulterior motives for making a whole page attacking Google.

I'm sorry I should have been clearer.

My point was Google has a lot to lose and lie about, too. Frankly, this letter by Google Australia comes off as a scare tactic than a honest plea.

Re: Google: Open Letter to Australians

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post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Murdoch's investigators illegally wiretapped anyone they could to get a scoop, including a murdered child. The process of doing so made it look like she was reading the messages and still alive.

> The process of doing so made it look like she was reading the messages and still alive. My understanding is that this turned out to be untrue. Wikipedia isn't super clear on this point, but I think it backs me up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_International_phone_hacki...

Wikipedia says the very opposite of what you're claiming.
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