Pathological Lying: Theoretical and Empirical Support for a Diagnostic Entity

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Post by InInteraction » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 1:55 PM UTC

Pathological Lying: Theoretical and Empirical Support for a Diagnostic Entity
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Post by exhilaration » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 2:09 PM UTC

Dear parents: never let your kids lie, at any age. It might be cute when they're 3 or 4 or 5, but if you don't gently tell them that "we don't tell lies, we always tell the truth" it will become a habit they will carry into adulthood.

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Post by miguelrochefort » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 2:10 PM UTC

That's lower than I expected.

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Post by foobarbecue » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 2:11 PM UTC

miguelrochefort wrote: post #3

That's lower than I expected.

It's higher than I expected. This is just the % that admitted to it, too!

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Post by wrkronmiller » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 2:11 PM UTC

exhilaration wrote: post #2

Dear parents: never let your kids lie, at any age. It might be cute when they're 3 or 4 or 5, but if you don't gently tell them that "we don't tell lies, we always tell the truth" it will become a habit they will carry into adulthood.

Do you have any experience/data to back that up?

While, on its face, it seems like a good idea to discourage lying, presenting children with such a binary approach to deception might leave them underprepared for the "bullshit" (marketing, propaganda, etc...) they will encounter in the real world.

EDIT: I'm not a parent and don't want to offer parenting advice. My point is simply that saying "we never lie" seems overly-reductive, versus something more nuanced like "lying is bad." I would worry about creating the expectation that most people don't lie, or even that good people never lie (e.g. white lies).

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Post by tdons » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 2:12 PM UTC

I've made a conscious effort to stop lying after reading https://samharris.org/books/lying/

Can recommend, it feels great.

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Post by raxxorrax » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 2:13 PM UTC

Honesty just doesn't pay.

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Post by SigmundA » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 2:14 PM UTC

foobarbecue wrote: post #4

miguelrochefort wrote: post #3

That's lower than I expected.

It's higher than I expected. This is just the % that admitted to it, too!

And thats 10 lies per day, how many people tell 1 lie a day?

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Post by stared » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 2:14 PM UTC

As an Aspie, (almost) every neurotypical person seems to be a pathological liar, not able to make a small talk without committing a few lies.

Examples: "I am fine, thanks", "You look great!", "It is a wonderful idea!", "You are our best client", "For our company privacy is a priority", etc, etc.

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Post by foobarbecue » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 2:15 PM UTC

I'd like to see this broken down by profession. Lying seems to be part of the job in many.