What are they doing with all that squid? If the market price of the squid doesn't cover the cost of extraction, then that must mean there isn't much demand for the product.
Is there some kind of subsidy for squid maybe?
How China’s Expanding Fishing Fleet Is Depleting the World’s Oceans
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#12Commercial scale cell-cultured meat can't arrive soon enough.
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#13We badly need some sort of industrial fish farming at a large scale. Oceanic fishing at this point is basically like hunting gathering at an industrial scale: we just catch whatever we can and who cares if it grows back, not our problem, "nature" will take care of it. The same way we seed, till, etc., we should be doing the same thing with oceans and "hunting" aka fishing should only be allowed as a hobby. In a somew…
(Salt water) fish farming is still hunting on an industrial scale because the farmed fish are mostly carnivorous and are fed with feed derived to a large part from hunted fish. It's mostly a tool to strip the oceans even harder (with fish farms converting undesirable catch into species people like to eat, everything becomes a target)
They should farm the prey too then? I still wonder where those mice that pet snakes eat come from. Never had a pet snake so I don't know much about them.
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#14Commercial scale cell-cultured meat can't arrive soon enough.
I worry that once that time arrives the government will force us to consume it by severely taxing actual meat.
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#15Commercial scale cell-cultured meat can't arrive soon enough.
Neither can (1) enforceable maritime laws and (2) a united and effective approach to dealing with the flagrant abuse of intellectual/legal/environmental policy from/by the country.
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#16Yale takes money from Fa Loon Gong this article is biased.
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#17Anyone else catch this? First:
“The Chinese government says its distant-water fishing fleet, or those vessels that travel far from China’s coast, numbers roughly 2,600, but other research, such as this study by the Overseas Development Institute (ODI), puts this number closer to 17,000”.
Several paragraphs later:
“More recently, the Chinese government has stopped calling for an expansion of its distant-water fishing fleet and released a five-year plan in 2017 that restricts the total number of offshore fishing vessels to under 3,000 by 2021.“
Why would you need to announce a plan to reduce your fleet to below 3,000 if it’s only “officially“ at 2,700? Is this a case of inconsistent propaganda?
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
(Salt water) fish farming is still hunting on an industrial scale because the farmed fish are mostly carnivorous and are fed with feed derived to a large part from hunted fish. It's mostly a tool to strip the oceans even harder (with fish farms converting undesirable catch into species people like to eat, everything becomes a target)
They should farm the prey too then? I still wonder where those mice that pet snakes eat come from. Never had a pet snake so I don't know much about them.
Yeah, I agree. Otherwise it's like saying we can't grow corn because you need water, minerals and these days, fertilizers. When we really want to, we can take care of the whole chain.
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#20Related HN thread Unmasking China's Invisible Fleet [1].