Google: Open Letter to Australians

Post by schemy » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 5:19 AM UTC

uluyol wrote: post #133

darawk wrote: post #132

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> I'm not sure how Google wins this one because it seems like an easy comeback is "well why don't you just be transparent and tell everybody that information". Ultimately, as long as they have anything resembling "secret sauce" they will be in the cross hairs of regulators for unfair treatment (even if just alleged, not proven), and the minute they don't they will lose their competitive advantage. Because then people…

Exactly, the ranking needs constant tweaking to deal with spam/SEO.

Post by chottocharaii » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 5:20 AM UTC

mgraczyk wrote: post #82

jjj123 wrote: post #73

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There are lots of examples of where personalization results in a worse experience for users but better metrics for the tech company. Somehow the Instagram ads algorithm has figured out exactly what I’m self conscious about with my own body; all I see are ads for invisible braces, skin cleansers, and hair treatments. I don’t actually want to buy any of these things, and they make me feel bad to look at. A de-personali…

You can click the ... menu, then "hide ad". It will show you fewer similar ads in the future. An unpersonalized IG ad experience would be teenage women's clothing and Netflix branding (assuming you're in the US). You probably don't want that either.

Post by chottocharaii » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 5:21 AM UTC

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stirlo wrote: post #52

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^ This. I'm hearing heaps of people crying "Murdock" and "Newscorp" but how about local jobs and ownership vs a global conglomerate that doesn't give 2 f#%ks about our tiny 25 million population and takes $4.8 billion offshore while paying only $100 million tax[1]. The Australian Associate Press recently went bankrupt and needed a bailout from philanthropists[2]. As much as you dislike one particular section of old m…

so, i'm not getting this. they take revenue, not profit offshore. profit meaning global profit. you want to tax the money they make in your country, without them first paying expenses in other countries? so if i have developers and research in america, and software sales in australia, my australian costs are $0, and all revenue is taxable profit. yeah, that seems fair. double fair for australia.

Post by chottocharaii » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 5:22 AM UTC

kyrra wrote: post #145

jojobas wrote: post #113

Pay corporate income tax here and then will talk.

(googler, opinion is my own) My understanding is that Google is locally incorporated in australia, as you can see on this page[0], at least for Ads, likely other businesses. If you select Australia on there you will see Ads payments are made to "Google Australia Pty Limited". [0] https://support.google.com/google-ads/answer/2375370?hl=en

Post by johnnyYen » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 5:22 AM UTC

stirlo wrote: post #122

johnnyYen wrote: post #111

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Ironic you should reference the ABC when the legislation specifically excludes the ABC from any benefit other "registered news organisations" may enjoy.

I didn't mention the government funded ABC but rather the Australian Associated Press (AAP) which is a collection of local journalists funded collectively by the large media companies on both the left and right wing.