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Re: Professional sporting events increase seasonal influenza mortality in US cities

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s clearly more impact from indoor winter sports, such as hockey, vs outdoor summer sports like football.

Football is a typical summer sport that runs from September through January.

In America? In the UK it's not played professionally at all during summer, the professional teams play it August to May.

Re: Professional sporting events increase seasonal influenza mortality in US cities

#42

Couldn't we go further, and just say "cities increase seasonal influenza mortality"? I mean, anything that is social, is almost certain to involve increased transmission of human-to-human infectious diseases. Live theater, classrooms, church services, drag shows, you name it, if it involves bringing a lot of people together, it's probably going to increase the spread of infectious diseases that spread by human-to-hum…

It's good to quantify and ballpark that damage instead of leaving it as an intuitive guess. If public policy demands the trading of lives, at least it shouldn't be done by way of blind poker. This study ballparks it around 10-20 deaths per year per 100k residents.

Why is it 'public policy' that decides if people can attend the theater?

People are out of control in this country thinking they have a right to tell everyone else how to live.

Such beliefs are depositic and evil.

Re: Professional sporting events increase seasonal influenza mortality in US cities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's good to quantify and ballpark that damage instead of leaving it as an intuitive guess. If public policy demands the trading of lives, at least it shouldn't be done by way of blind poker. This study ballparks it around 10-20 deaths per year per 100k residents.

> It's good to quantify and ballpark that damage instead of leaving it as an intuitive guess. If public policy demands the trading of lives, at least it shouldn't be done by way of blind poker. Yes, except that once the COVID situation is under control (assuming it can be controlled; some might say that's a big assumption), lots of people will be monumentally pissed off if this kind of study is used to justify ongoin…

> we are all craving a return to normality

Not all. I'm not. I'm missing a couple of things, but I'm not looking forward to "normality". Not wasting my life on commuting has made a huge difference in my life. I tend to get several colds per year, even in the summer, which has added up to a moderate benefit. I hope that our increased awareness of disease prevention will be enduring.

Re: Professional sporting events increase seasonal influenza mortality in US cities

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's good to quantify and ballpark that damage instead of leaving it as an intuitive guess. If public policy demands the trading of lives, at least it shouldn't be done by way of blind poker. Yes, except that once the COVID situation is under control (assuming it can be controlled; some might say that's a big assumption), lots of people will be monumentally pissed off if this kind of study is used to justify ongoin…

> we are all craving a return to normality Not all . I'm not. I'm missing a couple of things, but I'm not looking forward to "normality". Not wasting my life on commuting has made a huge difference in my life. I tend to get several colds per year, even in the summer, which has added up to a moderate benefit. I hope that our increased awareness of disease prevention will be enduring.

> Not all.

Look at the rest of my comment. When I said "all" I was clearly talking about people I know, not everbody everywhere. Specifically people that I know.

> Not wasting my life on commuting has made a huge difference in my life.

That's fair but it's also again quite clearly not what I was talking about. Read what I've actually said: I'm talking about leisure and social activities.

Seriously: stop picking random out of context fragments out of peoples' comments and building strawmen out of them just for the sake of being disagreeable.

Re: Professional sporting events increase seasonal influenza mortality in US cities

#45
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s clearly more impact from indoor winter sports, such as hockey, vs outdoor summer sports like football.

Football is a typical summer sport that runs from September through January.

Ha! As I wrote that I was thinking about football vs baseball and meant the latter.

Re: Professional sporting events increase seasonal influenza mortality in US cities

#46
post #4

I can foresee that one of the consequences of the pandemic will be a permanent change in the way that society views transmissible diseases. Prior to March, it was okay to gather in large groups and just get sick a few times a year. After the pandemic, I’m not sure people will be okay with that anymore.

So many forecasts i hear about the fallout of this, such as everyone living in private fortresses in the suburbs working from home, not going into large groups ever again, abandoning the cities, conferences, and universities for online vocational training seem dystopian to be honest.

If you're a backend engineer without social skills this type of life style seems perfect and desirable. Everyone else can't wait to meet people and interact again. There's a reason cities have existed for thousands of years.

Re: Professional sporting events increase seasonal influenza mortality in US cities

#47
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we are all craving a return to normality Not all . I'm not. I'm missing a couple of things, but I'm not looking forward to "normality". Not wasting my life on commuting has made a huge difference in my life. I tend to get several colds per year, even in the summer, which has added up to a moderate benefit. I hope that our increased awareness of disease prevention will be enduring.

> Not all . Look at the rest of my comment. When I said "all" I was clearly talking about people I know, not everbody everywhere. Specifically people that I know. > Not wasting my life on commuting has made a huge difference in my life. That's fair but it's also again quite clearly not what I was talking about. Read what I've actually said: I'm talking about leisure and social activities. Seriously: stop picking rand…

> Read what I've actually said: I'm talking about leisure and social activities.

My life is already normal with respect to social and leisure activities. We only keep a lil more distance and do more outside, the former being fine, the latter being an improvement.

Re: Professional sporting events increase seasonal influenza mortality in US cities

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post #4

I can foresee that one of the consequences of the pandemic will be a permanent change in the way that society views transmissible diseases. Prior to March, it was okay to gather in large groups and just get sick a few times a year. After the pandemic, I’m not sure people will be okay with that anymore.

How is my own immune system going to improve if I never expose myself to other people?

Re: Professional sporting events increase seasonal influenza mortality in US cities

#50
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we are all craving a return to normality Not all . I'm not. I'm missing a couple of things, but I'm not looking forward to "normality". Not wasting my life on commuting has made a huge difference in my life. I tend to get several colds per year, even in the summer, which has added up to a moderate benefit. I hope that our increased awareness of disease prevention will be enduring.

> Not all . Look at the rest of my comment. When I said "all" I was clearly talking about people I know, not everbody everywhere. Specifically people that I know. > Not wasting my life on commuting has made a huge difference in my life. That's fair but it's also again quite clearly not what I was talking about. Read what I've actually said: I'm talking about leisure and social activities. Seriously: stop picking rand…

Seriously: stop picking random out of context fragments out of peoples' comments and building strawmen out of them just for the sake of being disagreeable.

Sometimes people are replying for the sake of everyone else reading, rather than just the specific comment to which their words are anchored. This is how conversations work in person, too, where a small fragment of one point can lead to a tangent just based on that fragment.

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