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Mutt email client 25 years old

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Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by Cyykratahk »

bravura wrote: post #111
feanaro wrote: post #70

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I'm not sure what you are implying. That it is hard? It is only a single line added to the `mailcap` file: text/html; firefox '%s' &; test=test -n "$DISPLAY"; needsterminal; After that's in place, you simply open attachments (via `view-attachments`) and call `view-attach` (usually via a key binding) on the HTML attachment.

You just used the word “simply” in the same was as you used the word “just”. The argument GP was making is that what is obvious to one reader may not be obvious to another. So using the words “simply” or “just” or “obviously” does not add information, except to signal that you feel the reader is ignorant if they are not aware of what you’re explaining. My PhD advisor always crossed these words out of my scientific wr…

To add to what you are saying, here is a short article highlighting which words should be avoided: https://css-tricks.com/words-avoid-educational-writing/

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by dumb1224 »

zadwang wrote: post #96
TheRealHairyHar wrote: post #58

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ditto

I store all mails local. I can share my setup. I will take a while for me to find time and collect things in the same place. I will report back to this comment.

+1 for local mails. I love it when I can open it offline and fast to read / write some long emails.

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by gorgoiler »

Shout out to davmail, an IMAP proxy that sits between mutt (or any other IMAP client) and Outlook365.

Davmail handles Outlook’s Modern Authentication, and launches a browser when a 2FA challenge/response is required. The latest version of davmail can cache authentication keys meaning you only have to go through 2FA once.

It’s been a real joy to return to mutt, in my latest job where Outlook is deployed, after years of using Gmail.

http://davmail.sourceforge.net/

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by peteretep »

philjackson wrote: post #82
peteretep wrote: post #79

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Headless browser + OCR ... how hard can it be?!

Are you being sarcastic? Very hard probably.

I’m ... not sure. There’s a limit to how complicated emails are in 99% of non-spam HTML emails, right? You’re working with a limited subset of HTML meant to be reflowed to small screens pretty easily, and the task here is to extract text content into a form that can then be shown in a terminal.

I would — at the very least — think it was worth giving a go

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by gpanders »

zadwang wrote: post #35

I use mutt, mbsync, maildrop, and mblaze, mairix, msmtp, oauth2 with gmail. I have local speed, two way sync, customized email filtering, fast searching, vim editing, and multiple machine freedom. I am happy.

I use a similar setup. I'm curious what you use for msmtp for though: most Mutt setup guides I've read recommend using msmtp as well, but I've always just used Mutt's native SMTP client and it works fine, so I've never understood the need for a separate SMTP program.

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by gpanders »

TheRealHairyHar wrote: post #58
toadi wrote: post #41

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Want to see those configs...

ditto

I'm not the OP but I have a similar setup. I keep my mutt [1] config in git, which is viewable publicly.

[1]: https://git.sr.ht/~gpanders/dotfiles/tree/master/.config/mut...

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by avel »

IgorPartola wrote: post #16

One of the major reasons I use Gmail in the browser is because it’s in the browser: it’s always on the same tab and I can switch to it when I want to check it. I used Mutt (unsuccessfully) a few years ago since my other window that’s always open is a terminal emulator. I wonder: should I fire up a Linux emulation in my browser and run Mutt inside that? I’m sure things have gotten fast enough that this would actually…

If you are already productive with Gmail and its web UI, why change?

I love mutt and have used it in the past, but I'm very productive with Gmail in the browser, especially with the vim-like shortcuts it provides and with an inbox-zero-like workflow.

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by wazoox »

kleiba wrote: post #107
ori_b wrote: post #97

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I can't think of a single instance where that happened. Do you have some apps generating broken messages?

I'm amazed that you haven't had that experience yet. Years ago, when the web was less commonly used, it was pretty much frowned upon to send HTML emails. These days, it's almost the opposite: people asks "what's wrong with you" when you use a text-only email client (setting).

I use Claws, never ever sent an HTML email, and nobody complained so far.

Re: Mutt email client 25 years old

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Post by layer8 »

dancek wrote: post #64
feanaro wrote: post #54

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You can just set up Mutt to open HTML mail in Firefox.

A great example of the HN use of the word "just".

The real problem though is not preserving the rich-text-ness of the quoted message when replying, and the inability to have inline images. I use Outlook at work and mutt for private email. Using mutt at work just wouldn’t be practical, as the text markup and inline images are often critical to the exchange.

On a related note, while I love the UX of mutt, I do find proportional fonts to be significantly more readable than fixed-width fonts for paragraphs of natural-language text.

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