I think we’re in a real low point right now. Gmail, AMP, Chrome, Android. So many peoples internet experience is from one place. With Amazon dominating retail, and Facebook under its various brands dominating social media, there isn’t much scope for other players. I don’t see another option than breaking theses companies up at this point.
Web by Google (TM)
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#12AMP still makes no sense. On iOS, Android and Windows it’s completely broken and friction increasing to grab a link to send to a friend in another medium. Not only that but it seems the page slightly degrades sometimes. For what? A theoretical page load time improvement? Maybe that’s naive but we already have “request desktop mode” to allow for bifurcated experiences. Why do we need a third thats seemingly even worse…
It only makes sense in terms of trying to lock marketers and publishers into a Google-led ecosystem.
Re: Web by Google (TM)
#13AMP still makes no sense. On iOS, Android and Windows it’s completely broken and friction increasing to grab a link to send to a friend in another medium. Not only that but it seems the page slightly degrades sometimes. For what? A theoretical page load time improvement? Maybe that’s naive but we already have “request desktop mode” to allow for bifurcated experiences. Why do we need a third thats seemingly even worse…
It's a lot of effort to maintain AMP pages for all your site content alongside the standard pages over time. That's why they tend to degrade.
Call it antitrust.ly! :)
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#14I think we’re in a real low point right now. Gmail, AMP, Chrome, Android. So many peoples internet experience is from one place. With Amazon dominating retail, and Facebook under its various brands dominating social media, there isn’t much scope for other players. I don’t see another option than breaking theses companies up at this point.
Don't forget that Amazon dominates a lot more than just retail on the internet. With AWS they effectively run large portions of it as well.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't forget that Amazon dominates a lot more than just retail on the internet. With AWS they effectively run large portions of it as well.
Isn't that kinda like saying that the electric companies do the same thing, though?
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't forget that Amazon dominates a lot more than just retail on the internet. With AWS they effectively run large portions of it as well.
Isn't that kinda like saying that the electric companies do the same thing, though?
Re: Web by Google (TM)
#17But in the end, the US government will most likely have to split the company in order for stuff to really change.
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#18> Google’s capture of the Web is a fait accompli. Only legislation will keep the World Wide Web from finally becoming Web by Google (TM). I really hope it's not the case, because then Google will cancel it. /s Search is probably something where there could be creative use of the p2p decentralized technologies. If when performing a search I could ask my contacts to look in their history if they have something matching…
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't forget that Amazon dominates a lot more than just retail on the internet. With AWS they effectively run large portions of it as well.
Isn't that kinda like saying that the electric companies do the same thing, though?
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#20> Google’s capture of the Web is a fait accompli. Only legislation will keep the World Wide Web from finally becoming Web by Google (TM). I really hope it's not the case, because then Google will cancel it. /s Search is probably something where there could be creative use of the p2p decentralized technologies. If when performing a search I could ask my contacts to look in their history if they have something matching…
Right now I'll settle for a centralized search engine/service that works like Google did before all the crazy, like before Amp, and before penalizing non-mobile-optimized sites, and so on.
Federated search scares me because it might constrain search results by being tainted with a localised world view.