Elevated rates of autism in transgender and gender-diverse individuals

Post by dx87 » Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 12:05 PM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #219

hombre_fatal wrote: post #180

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It never says that the crazy describes all trans people. It doesn't call all trans fakes. You seem to even admit you didn't make it past the title with your uncharitable read, so how do you expect to respond to something it actually claims? It points out that there are some social contagion factors to some expressions in our youth. Which is completely reasonable given how much clout gives you in modern social media,…

> "become trans" and win social favor This is not how it works in the real world, is it? Someone becoming trans will lose access to a large number of potential dating partners, they will be bullied and ostracized, they face increased levels of violence, they face reduced worker protections, etc etc.

Post by encom » Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 12:09 PM UTC

throwaway_pdp09 wrote: post #234

encom wrote: post #225

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(not parent) >Would you call them 'her' to their face, knowing how it could upset them? Maybe, maybe not. What I don't want to do however is keep track of everyones imaginary genders, and face legal repercussions for "misgendering" them. Here's an interesting search to look through: https://duck.com/?q=illegal+misgendering

When they have become what they want, they quite well look male/female so you don't have to remember anything. Indeed, you'd have to make an effort to get it wrong. If they are transitioning they're very forgiving of genuine mistakes. Your links don't support your position - did you read them yourself? "Good News: Law Penalizing “Misgendering” with Hefty Fine and/or Jail Time being Legally Challenged" (california) "M…

Post by silentsanctuary » Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 12:12 PM UTC

fxtentacle wrote: post #172

It's well documented that autistic individuals are having difficulties resolving or tolerating emotionally conflicting situations. If a male non-autist has girlish interests, he might be proud of his uniqueness and thereby accept it as part of himself. For a male autist, the socially conflicting girlish interests will be much more painful, thereby driving a higher percentage of autists to resolve the conflict by adju…

Post by skohan » Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 12:14 PM UTC

seba_dos1 wrote: post #120

I've already seen people suggesting that this link exists, but I've always read it the other way around - that there are elevated rates of transgenderism along autistic people, which kinda makes sense to me. People on the spectrum ask themselves more questions about their own bodies and feelings and don't get easily satisfied by adhering to social norms as neurotypicals do.

Post by intuitionist » Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 12:19 PM UTC

zaksoup wrote: post #35

leephillips wrote: post #30

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Your objections are all from imagined motivation (“dog whistle”) or from imagined consequences of my being right. These are both informal fallacies, and not legitimate forms of argumentation. Unless you believe that the current unprecedented epidemic of adolescent girls deciding that they are trans has an organic origin, somebody is convincing them of this. My objections to the study are logical objections. Since the…

Sorry if I was unclear. I did not mean to imply any specific motivation of yours . That being said, the example you used is a dog whistle commonly used by folks whose motivations I have no problem imagining, and it is used to perpetrate violence towards trans people. Furthermore, as I feel quite certain that, given your lack of evidence, you are not right, the consequences I "imagine" are not stemming from you being…