I find it baffling that SoftBank isn’t simply taking ARM public. If ever there was a company that should be independent, it’s ARM. Is there a good explanation out there for why this isn’t the obvious choice?
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#95I'm in agreement. nVidia's history of not playing nicely with others does not make this sound like a good deal, especially for entrenched ARM vendors. (Apple won't be phased; they basically design everything themselves, so they don't really even care about the direction of ARM or the architecture. They could hard fork tomorrow, or two years ago, and nobody will notice since they're entirely vertically integrated.) Bu…
I think nVidia could run into some serious anti-trust issues if they tried to interfere with the ARM ecosystem. There's far too much at stake here. Is there a phone on the planet that doesn't run ARM?
It’s not that they will go out of their way to harm it. The ecosystem will change from being the top focus of arm to becoming more of an afterthought. Nvidia arm could end up taking more of a take it or leave it stance because those customers are no longer the top priority.
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"nVidia's history of not playing nicely with others": can you elaborate or mention an example? That aspect has escaped me thus far.
There was the apple gpu fiasco. Apple laptop GPUs were failing at an extraordinary rate in 2010-2011, and Apple were getting harangued in the media about it (which was justified). Apple eventually announced a program to cover replacement of the GPUs, but it was very delayed. I'm 100% convinced the delay was caused by Nvidia refusing to accept responsibility. When the program was released, in order to have the repair…
Apple also refuses to sign the kernel extension necessary for NVidia GPU drivers to run. NVidia had made a GPU driver for High Sierra, but literally a version later Apple locked down the kernel so that only signed drivers could be loaded. Anyone who was using Nvidia GPUs through, say, an external GPU box got screwed.
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#98This IS good news . If nvidia's history is something we can go by then the arm licencing etc will be so miserable that people will flock to riscV
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#99I suspect Apple would buy ARM before NVIDIA would ever get a chance to.
That is of course, to protect their own interests as opposed to making it into a successful business in its own right.
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> Apple won't be phased; they basically design everything themselves Their new notebooks are still moving to an ARM-based CPU... Even if they enhanced the ARM design they still have an ARM licence.
I would assume they had protected themselves before the SoftBank purchase. Also, it's odd that they refer to the new stuff as Apple Silicon.
>Also, it's odd that they refer to the new stuff as Apple Silicon.
Apple supposedly pays intel more for their CPUs than other OEM to avoid having their sticker on Macs; So I don't see this as odd, it's usual Apple branding tactic and from the looks of it(ARM being under threat of sale) it seems to be a wise decision as an average Apple customer wouldn't mind if it switches the architecture for its silicon.