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Trump says he is considering pardon for Edward Snowden

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Re: Trump says he is considering pardon for Edward Snowden

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Trump will scarcely do something like this unless he thinks it will benefit him. Does he think millenials will love him for it or does he think Snowden has dirt on Obama? Time will tell.

I agree. But still. No way I'll vote for Trump, but I have to admit that such a pardon would have me feel just a bit less antipathy toward Trump.

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> realDonaldTrump: ObamaCare is a disaster and Snowden is a spy who should be executed-but if it and he could reveal Obama's records,I might become a major fan He should be executed, but in the same breathe he may deserve a pardon? Not going to happen. Neither the State Department, the Justice Department, the Defense Department, or the Intelligence Community, is particularly sympathetic to Snowden's cause (for good r…

Your quote is from... October 2013 [1]. I think Trump's views and information might have changed since then, and the state of the world has changed which will modify the pros and cons of this move to trump. I expect his decision will mostly be made based on how he perceives it impacting his chance of getting re-elected. I haven't noticed trump ever being particularly concerned about what the intelligence community th…

I expect it might be calculated to help his re-election - if he does it. Remembering how google locked down its internal network after the revelations, I would expect lots of silicon valley might align with snowden's plight.

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Trump will scarcely do something like this unless he thinks it will benefit him. Does he think millenials will love him for it or does he think Snowden has dirt on Obama? Time will tell.

I agree. But still. No way I'll vote for Trump, but I have to admit that such a pardon would have me feel just a bit less antipathy toward Trump.

I'm glad Edward Snowden leaked what he did, but I'm not sure a pardon makes any sense at all.

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Kind of hard to prosecute Assange if you're willing to pardon Snowden. I'm gonna go make some popcorn and keep watching for Assange's name in the pre-election headlines.

Assange isn’t even a US citizen, nor (if I recall) was the “crime” on US soil. Further, The “crime” of booting up the drive should be independent of what was done with it. It’s insane to me Assange is being prosecuted. Who in the US government is willing to stand up and say this is wrong? The person who leaked the data is going to get far less time in prison.

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Politically, bringing back Snowden brings back the issue, Obama/Biden era big government spying program Prism.

Trump: Remember everyone, Biden used to spy on you.

This is similar to when he did a press conference with all of Bill Clinton’s accusers. Just a means to an end for Trump.

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I agree. But still. No way I'll vote for Trump, but I have to admit that such a pardon would have me feel just a bit less antipathy toward Trump.

I'm glad Edward Snowden leaked what he did, but I'm not sure a pardon makes any sense at all.

I think it’s unlikely Snowden would ever receive a fair trial, therefore a pardon is the best course of action, erring on the side of compassion versus “justice” typically dispensed by the US justice system. What he revealed about the domestic surveillance apparatus violating US law and citizens’ rights had significant value to nation.

Regardless, if this is how the pardon comes about, I happily support it even if it’s not ideal.

Re: Trump says he is considering pardon for Edward Snowden

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad Edward Snowden leaked what he did, but I'm not sure a pardon makes any sense at all.

I think it’s unlikely Snowden would ever receive a fair trial, therefore a pardon is the best course of action, erring on the side of compassion versus “justice” typically dispensed by the US justice system. What he revealed about the domestic surveillance apparatus violating US law and citizens’ rights had significant value to nation. Regardless, if this is how the pardon comes about, I happily support it even if it…

I think it's impossible to have a fair trial when the guy has made an entire career out of detailing precisely what illegal actions he has taken.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it’s unlikely Snowden would ever receive a fair trial, therefore a pardon is the best course of action, erring on the side of compassion versus “justice” typically dispensed by the US justice system. What he revealed about the domestic surveillance apparatus violating US law and citizens’ rights had significant value to nation. Regardless, if this is how the pardon comes about, I happily support it even if it…

I think it's impossible to have a fair trial when the guy has made an entire career out of detailing precisely what illegal actions he has taken.

Demonstrating gross breach of legality and trust by intelligence agencies? In other countries, leadership of those agencies who lied to Congress (or their version of the legislative branch) would’ve done time.

It boggles the mind that some can attempt to justify the egregious actions of the US intelligence community while supporting the railroading of a whistleblower. Perhaps the intelligence community could be more responsible and compliant with statute, negating the need for whistleblowers to reveal their illegal activities.

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