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GNOME 3 Released

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Re: GNOME 3 Released

#11
Did anyone else find putting these two features next to each other unfortunate:

* Messaging built-in

Communication is an important part of the modern desktop, but it's a hassle when you have to switch windows to reply to a message.

* GNOME 3 is designed to reduce distraction and interruption and to put you in control.

Our new notifications system subtly presents messages and will save them until you are ready for them,...

Re: GNOME 3 Released

#14
The webfont used (Cantarell) does not look good in Windows. The texts are almost unreadable: http://op111.net/u/misc/20110407-win7-fx4-gnome.org.png — (It looks fine on Linux.)

Cantarell, by the way, is also the UI font of Gnome Shell. Not a bad UI font, I think, but it has a narrow glyph range (about 400) and only includes Latin.

Moving to the larger picture, my impression from the Gnome Shell desktop up to now is that it is an interesting experiment, trying to rethink as it does a lot of stuff that we have grown to take for granted in desktop environments. But it is not necessarily a good desktop experience. Up to now (I have used it for about 40 hours in total) I find it tiring and distracting, rather than distraction-free. Switching between app windows, e.g., is not a pleasant experience for me, with all the action I see on the screen and that I have to take myself each time I want to switch. (Alt-tabbing avoids all that, but I don’t always switch windows with Alt+Tab.) Another thing that does not help me, and that I find strange as an design decision, is the position of the clock right in the middle of the topbar. It causes me stress; I feel like time is hunting me.

In general, Gnome Shell seems to me to offer an experience more tuned to small rather than large screens. In a 2560*1600 screen, say, and if you prefer using the mouse rather than the keyboard, the distances you have to travel are ridiculous.

I expect the whole thing to improve in the next couple of years or so, but I am curious to see how much it can improve given its basic design principles.

Re: GNOME 3 Released

#15
Why are the videos on the site so small, make it big and show off what you have made!

You can see them here on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRHAio98n-g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRHAio98n-g&feature=relmf... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip9Bgjaspjs&feature=relmf... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lepXx1kDelo&feature=relmf... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSuRy7TRHPc&feature=relmf... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxOQj5eBRCY&feature=relat... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4fhsgZbgKk&feature=relat...

Re: GNOME 3 Released

#16

The webfont used (Cantarell) does not look good in Windows. The texts are almost unreadable: http://op111.net/u/misc/20110407-win7-fx4-gnome.org.png — (It looks fine on Linux.) Cantarell, by the way, is also the UI font of Gnome Shell. Not a bad UI font, I think, but it has a narrow glyph range (about 400) and only includes Latin. Moving to the larger picture, my impression from the Gnome Shell desktop up to now is t…

UIs like this are not for power users. They use xmonad or awesome or dwm or ratpoison or ...

This is for someone who turns on their computer, does some work, and then stops using their computer. They do not want to bother themselves with a lot of learning. Simple actions that can be easily learned and improve speed (like keyboard shortcuts) are in reach. But more "confusing" concepts like virtual desktops without visual cues are not what they go for, even though pressing M-1 is much faster than moving your mouse to some picture of window.

The idea is "how can we make computing accessible to the average person", not "how can we make demetris not feel stress on his 2560x1600 screen". Once you reach a certain level of interest in optimizing everything, you have to use tools to build your own desktop environment, because you are a unique flower, and only you can decide what you want. You've reached this point, so GNOME is not for you.

Re: GNOME 3 Released

#18
Who cares about gnome? I mean really. To first, second, and third order approximations, nobody will ever use it. The ipad2 sold over 2 million units the first month out. The next billion users of the internet will interact with it over their cell phone. Might as well publish an article about somebody who is making a nice set of switches for the front panel of a pdp-11 using mahogany wood or something.

Re: GNOME 3 Released

#19
I really like gnome3, but I'ts kind of sad to realize the main video on the frontpage (for a wonderful new desktop experience) shows only two desktop applications: gedit editing an html file, and firefox with firebug to fix that same code. And a fake IM session with a loremipsum in it.

I understand the gnome desktop may not have many shiny artisty apps as OSX, but this feels a tad too nerdy.

Re: GNOME 3 Released

#20
post #17

Does anyone else find the tagline "Made of Easy" to be a bit silly and poorly thought out?

It's playful, it clearly and strongly communicates a single underlying concept. I think it's good.
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