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Trump: 'A lot of people' think Edward Snowden 'not being treated fairly'

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... Now, THEREFORE, I, DONALD JOHN TRUMP , President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Edward Joseph Snowden for all offenses against the United States which he, Edward Joseph Snowden, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from March 1, 2007 through August 14, 2020. ...

Re: Trump: 'A lot of people' think Edward Snowden 'not being treated fairly'

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>In a 2013 tweet, Trump wrote: “Snowden is a spy who should be executed-but if it and he could reveal Obama’s records, I might become a major fan.” good god, that's one of the most Trumpish Trump tweets ever.

"The Art of Deal"

Re: Trump: 'A lot of people' think Edward Snowden 'not being treated fairly'

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post #12

... Now, THEREFORE, I, DONALD JOHN TRUMP , President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Edward Joseph Snowden for all offenses against the United States which he, Edward Joseph Snowden, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period…

If that were to happen I can imagine at least some people who were for his pardon in ‘14 would denounce the pardon if it came to be.

Re: Trump: 'A lot of people' think Edward Snowden 'not being treated fairly'

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Is this article only three short paragraphs long, or is something not being displayed somewhere?

I see about 10-12 paragraph indents, although short, so it might be an issue on your end. NYPost does have an intense number of ads so perhaps a blocker issue?

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Intelligence services used to be unassailable. They did the dirty work for the country (and admittedly it’s a necessary thing in an unfair world), but a couple of major problems are: they are often wrong in very bad ways: Russian missile crisis, power of the late USSR where Reagan has to seek advice from DoD instead, gulf war II and then the internal and political spying (remember they were caught spying on congress?…

I'm generally distrustful of intelligence agencies because they are literally designed to carry out underhanded and deceptive operations. If you go back and read old WWII and Cold War declassified documents you can clearly see a lot of "ends justify the means" operations. I've never understood why we hold these agencies in such high regard. I guess because they're supposed to be on 'our side'?

Re: Trump: 'A lot of people' think Edward Snowden 'not being treated fairly'

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:D Hilarious. This is just Trump in a nutshell. Imagine your kid in a few years, when they have a school lecture about "worst US presidents in history", then all you need to do is show them this page and they will know it all... This single post has everything:

* Completely incoherent language and sentences that make zero sense and repeat themselves several times

* Trump basing legal arguments for a pardon on "a lot of people like him" and basing the difference of "execute this guy" on "well if he does me a favor, I would be a huge fan, if not, let's kill this motherfu"

* Making completely absurd comparisons to his own history to "prove" his point. Things happened to him too you know, he can relate... He can relate

Re: Trump: 'A lot of people' think Edward Snowden 'not being treated fairly'

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That sounds suspiciously like he's considering pardoning Snowden. Also... going from calling for Snowden's execution to potentially pardoning him is one hell of a 180.

Doing 180 requires some direction, principle or policy.

Trump's just says something random to get into news or test of it would make him more popular.

https://terrytao.wordpress.com/2016/06/04/it-ought-to-be-com...

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