Apple Music on Android asks user's card details to avoid Google's 30% cut

Post by cma » Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 1:20 PM UTC

mehrdada wrote: post #74

cma wrote: post #43

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Under Apple's clarified guidelines, if a University put out a remote learning app to help students deal with the pandemic better than a browser solution, Apple would be entitled to 30% of each user's tuition. Once they have a few slow quarters and pull the lever on taking a cut of app mediated real-world services, we may see 10-30% of each Taxi ride going to Apple.

Apple only extracts that revenue from apps if you want to directly take payment through the app. Both Netflix and Spotify work on iOS. They just are not collecting payments or doing new signups there. So in your analogy the student is presumably registered already with the school and Apple doesn’t take a cut at all, even today.

Post by kanobo » Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 3:56 PM UTC

blub wrote: post #39

kanobo wrote: post #7

Apple and Google are similar to China and America. Apple has more restrictive policies within a walled garden. Google gives more freedoms but its platform is wild and open. It's easy for Apple to take advantage of Google's ecosystem and open policies, but very difficult for Google to do the same to Apple. It's similar to how US companies don't get a fair shake in China. And in both, the citizens get taken advantage o…

While one can draw parallels to all sorts of things the question is whether that makes the original situation clearer or offers any insights. In this case it doesn't, it's just a cutesy yet pointless way of expressing something.

Post by ric2b » Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 6:09 PM UTC

jeswin wrote: post #63

kanobo wrote: post #7

Apple and Google are similar to China and America. Apple has more restrictive policies within a walled garden. Google gives more freedoms but its platform is wild and open. It's easy for Apple to take advantage of Google's ecosystem and open policies, but very difficult for Google to do the same to Apple. It's similar to how US companies don't get a fair shake in China. And in both, the citizens get taken advantage o…

Here's something many HNers might be unaware of. China has several App Stores for Android, but only Chinese companies are allowed to list apps. Yup, completely closed to outside competition. The only appropriate response really is to close markets to Chinese companies until they open up theirs (without unreasonable restrictions on free speech).

Post by vmception » Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 7:05 PM UTC

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #89

vmception wrote: post #32

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> Given the fundamental differences between corporations and governments I disagree with that line. I feel like people are desperate for there to be a difference based on some 9th grade civics class, or because an animated anthropomorphic piece of paper sang to them about bills in elementary school. The British East India company had the power to jail and kill, for centuries. The Head of the Executive Branch is the C…

It's amazing the mental gymnastics people will go through to justify their own beliefs. If it has the power to jail and kill, that'll make it much more like a government than you like to admit.