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Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by moistly » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 9:07 PM UTC

NoOneNew wrote: post #36

noir_lord wrote: post #25

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It's not just the death rate. It's long term physical damage even if you survive.

Yea, sorry, but I have to call anecdotal bs on these claims. Every person in the news I've seen that claims long term problems are obese individuals looking to make excuses. Other "damages" are so random and all over the place, it smells like correlation rather than causation. You know when someone might say they have head lice and your head gets all itchy suddenly, then you think you might have lice too. Theres a wh…

> Every person in the news I've seen that claims long term problems are obese individuals looking to make excuses.

You should watch a more diverse media, then, because there are more than a few fabulously fit people who are no longer able to compete, or even continue, their sport.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by NoOneNew » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 9:31 PM UTC

moistly wrote: post #71

NoOneNew wrote: post #36

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Yea, sorry, but I have to call anecdotal bs on these claims. Every person in the news I've seen that claims long term problems are obese individuals looking to make excuses. Other "damages" are so random and all over the place, it smells like correlation rather than causation. You know when someone might say they have head lice and your head gets all itchy suddenly, then you think you might have lice too. Theres a wh…

> Every person in the news I've seen that claims long term problems are obese individuals looking to make excuses. You should watch a more diverse media, then, because there are more than a few fabulously fit people who are no longer able to compete, or even continue, their sport.

Anecdotal and it sounds more like they have tiny heart syndrome flaring up. Part B, again, it's sexy to "Oh my goodness, my life is so difficult now since I survived covid. Look at me, I'm a covid survivor, my life is so altered." It's all cherry picked cases that the media are throwing out there. Cherry picked anecdotes, something in any other HN topic would get you lambasted.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by thelastname » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 9:48 PM UTC

We don't have the vaccine and don't know if will ever have.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by moistly » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 9:53 PM UTC

NoOneNew wrote: post #72

moistly wrote: post #71

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> Every person in the news I've seen that claims long term problems are obese individuals looking to make excuses. You should watch a more diverse media, then, because there are more than a few fabulously fit people who are no longer able to compete, or even continue, their sport.

Anecdotal and it sounds more like they have tiny heart syndrome flaring up. Part B, again, it's sexy to "Oh my goodness, my life is so difficult now since I survived covid. Look at me, I'm a covid survivor, my life is so altered." It's all cherry picked cases that the media are throwing out there. Cherry picked anecdotes, something in any other HN topic would get you lambasted.

Guess my response to all that is to roll my eyes and walk away. Cynicism is boring.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by dividedbyzero » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 11:22 PM UTC

nickthemagicman wrote: post #46

dividedbyzero wrote: post #34

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Could you link to studies that support this point of view, if you have any? What are your sources?

>Post your link saying that people can be re-infected.

No idea what that is supposed to tell me, to be honest.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by grogenaut » Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 5:04 AM UTC

bmcn2020 wrote: post #54

bkor wrote: post #52

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> I'm no anti-vaxxer, nor a believer in the "plandemic". But the vaccine should be voluntary and highly recommended for at risk groups. After all, they're the ones who would be impacted the most. That would not work. The high risk group would then get infected by other people. A vaccine isn't perfect. Similarly for people affected where you did not know beforehand that they would have a bad effect.

OK I see your point. But then, if this is like the seasonal flu, then we'd have to be vaccinated regularly?

this is what people mean by a disease becoming endemic aka (with us).

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by DrJones1098 » Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 12:43 PM UTC

AstralStorm wrote: post #66

nickthemagicman wrote: post #46

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>Post your link saying that people can be re-infected.

Multiple cases described. You're being lazy as there is consensus that immunity if present is fickle. A well documented one: https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200720/Doctor-in-Israel-...

News medical.dot net. That's not a legit site. Was hoping for a PubMed article.

I looked at the sources for that article you posted and not one of them supported your claim. Not one. I even went several articles in because news medical dot net was using itself as a source.

There's no consensus at all, even remotely. I have no idea where you got that other than fear based news reporting.

I'm not going explain immunology to you but 99.9999% of viruses on the planet build long-term immunity if you survive. Coronavirus is the same way.

To put it another way..vaccine immunity operates the same way as infectious immunity.... do you think they are going to invest billions of dollars into a vaccine if immunity only lasts for a few months?

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by greenbush » Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 9:58 AM UTC

NoOneNew wrote: post #72

moistly wrote: post #71

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> Every person in the news I've seen that claims long term problems are obese individuals looking to make excuses. You should watch a more diverse media, then, because there are more than a few fabulously fit people who are no longer able to compete, or even continue, their sport.

Anecdotal and it sounds more like they have tiny heart syndrome flaring up. Part B, again, it's sexy to "Oh my goodness, my life is so difficult now since I survived covid. Look at me, I'm a covid survivor, my life is so altered." It's all cherry picked cases that the media are throwing out there. Cherry picked anecdotes, something in any other HN topic would get you lambasted.

Here are some first-person stories of runners who survived covid with lasting effects: https://www.reddit.com/r/Garmin/comments/i9n1pa/first_run_po...