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Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by spollo »

korethr wrote: post #5

Well, this would be another method for achieving heads up displays. Here's an application that I think would be really cool: HUD retrofits for cars. Take a transparent plastic film, stick it to the inside of your windshield in a similar manner like you would apply a tint film to the side and rear windows. Then, take the connector dangling from the corner of the film and connect it to the supplied box which connects t…

That would be cool for aftermarket HUDs. As far as making a useful HUD goes, some carmakers are already doing that. I have a 2019 Mazda CX-5 and it has a HUD that is projected on to the windshield. It tells me my current speed, the current speed limit of the road I am on, if there is a stop sign ahead, and if I run the GPS system it displays the next cross street, and arrow symbols for upcoming turns.

I personally find it super useful! I don't need to look down at my instrument panel as my current speed gets sort of projected on road ahead of me. It's small and a barebones design but it works.

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Post by hbcondo714 »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #2

For a long long time, science fiction movies have used transparent displays to seem more "futuristic." However, actual transparent displays have been underwhelming in practice. This technology is being use by Xaomi to make a "transparent TV"[1] which in theory you will be able to buy. (I realize that not all of these sorts of announcements survive until actual product shipment). It will be interesting to see one of t…

Yup, Tony Stark's transparent phone looks futuristic:

http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2015/01/tony-stark-trans...

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

spollo wrote: post #11
korethr wrote: post #5

Well, this would be another method for achieving heads up displays. Here's an application that I think would be really cool: HUD retrofits for cars. Take a transparent plastic film, stick it to the inside of your windshield in a similar manner like you would apply a tint film to the side and rear windows. Then, take the connector dangling from the corner of the film and connect it to the supplied box which connects t…

That would be cool for aftermarket HUDs. As far as making a useful HUD goes, some carmakers are already doing that. I have a 2019 Mazda CX-5 and it has a HUD that is projected on to the windshield. It tells me my current speed, the current speed limit of the road I am on, if there is a stop sign ahead, and if I run the GPS system it displays the next cross street, and arrow symbols for upcoming turns. I personally fi…

The thing you describe works by passing an image through lenses, and reflecting it off the windscreen. That way, you can focus on it and the road at the same time. For transparent OLED-based systems, you'd have to stare at the windscreen to look at them – so you wouldn't see them on the road; they'd look much nearer.

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by three_seagrass »

korethr wrote: post #6
ChuckMcM wrote: post #2

For a long long time, science fiction movies have used transparent displays to seem more "futuristic." However, actual transparent displays have been underwhelming in practice. This technology is being use by Xaomi to make a "transparent TV"[1] which in theory you will be able to buy. (I realize that not all of these sorts of announcements survive until actual product shipment). It will be interesting to see one of t…

Why not combine the two? Have your traditional opaque displays, then overlay the transparent system. I imagine this could be useful in court, allowing both the prosecution and defense to scribble on video evidence presented to the jury to point things out and highlight important bits, without ever modifying the underlying evidence video. Kinda similar to how sports commentators will use video overlay to scribble on r…

Or double layered: Transparent black LED behind transparent OLED

The black LED pixels can supplement the dark/opaque colors, while simultaneously supporting transparent colors with OLED pixels (i.e. like the png format).

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by GICodeWarrior »

If you put your webcam behind your video chat window, you can achieve better eye contact with your remote participants. I wonder how well a webcam can see through these screens and/or how much of a hole would be required in the rendered image to avoid obstructing the camera.

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by crazygringo »

I'm excited for transparent OLED's simply so that laptops and monitors will be able to put the webcam behind the display, ~1/3 from the top.

Then videoconferencing software can automatically move the image of the person you're talking to so their eyes are roughly centered on that point.

And finally everyone gets to make direct eye contact again!

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by xwdv »

crazygringo wrote: post #17

I'm excited for transparent OLED's simply so that laptops and monitors will be able to put the webcam behind the display, ~1/3 from the top. Then videoconferencing software can automatically move the image of the person you're talking to so their eyes are roughly centered on that point. And finally everyone gets to make direct eye contact again!

And then we fall into the uncanny valley and go back to how it used to be with no eye contact.

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by nullc »

GICodeWarrior wrote: post #16

If you put your webcam behind your video chat window, you can achieve better eye contact with your remote participants. I wonder how well a webcam can see through these screens and/or how much of a hole would be required in the rendered image to avoid obstructing the camera.

With the right level of integration the camera could subtract the image that is in front of it. That would requires having a pretty good model of the point spread function, perfect synchronization etc.

OLEDs have a fast response... I wonder if it would be possible to put the camera shutter and the oled out of phase enough to substantially dim it.

Perhaps polarization could be used to get better isolation.

With all the engineering required to do it, it might be much less expensive to have three or four cameras at the edges of the display, then extract a depth map and resynthesize an view from the perspective of the centre of the screen. :)

Plus that would give you bonus features like being able to automatically blur our or heavily denoise the background. :)

Re: Transparent OLEDs

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Post by crazygringo »

xwdv wrote: post #18
crazygringo wrote: post #17

I'm excited for transparent OLED's simply so that laptops and monitors will be able to put the webcam behind the display, ~1/3 from the top. Then videoconferencing software can automatically move the image of the person you're talking to so their eyes are roughly centered on that point. And finally everyone gets to make direct eye contact again!

And then we fall into the uncanny valley and go back to how it used to be with no eye contact.

Not sure what you mean? I've used prototypes of this and there's nothing uncanny whatosever about it. It's seriously great.

You can test it yourself one-way by just asking a friend to look into their webcam when talking to you. On your side, it'll look totally normal.

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