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It’s impossible to force a parent into the choice between working a life-threatening job interacting with the public or eviction It's a failing of the government that so many Americans have to face this choice.
Yes! It's also a failure of imagination of the American public. It's like a social safety net DURING A PANDEMIC is just too far outside the Overton window. It's crazy!
Yeah this is definitely not surprising to the least! Even if I was laid off I am more worried about my children having long term health effects (or worse) than missing a few bills, and that is before considering how flexible lenders are claiming to be (I've gotten emails from all my major bills about covid related help they can provide). I am just so confused why some people are acting like kids are a different speci…
> I am just so confused why some people are acting like kids are a different species when it comes to covid. Yes they have less effects than adults but some children do go to the hospital and ICU. And also they can easily spread it to the parents/grandparents. Minimization and denial are powerful psychological forces, and the fact that some children get the condition without severe symptoms lulls some people into com…
If this is the way to treat with life, how would you be still alive? Isn’t it the very reason we get ill because the body is treating the virus.
Do you have any source to believe that asymptomatic infected person has long term negative effects from infection?
Yeah this is definitely not surprising to the least! Even if I was laid off I am more worried about my children having long term health effects (or worse) than missing a few bills, and that is before considering how flexible lenders are claiming to be (I've gotten emails from all my major bills about covid related help they can provide). I am just so confused why some people are acting like kids are a different speci…
Perhaps people are simply desensitized to kids catching colds & flus? My kid probably brought home twenty different novel coronaviruses, all before his second birthday.
I wish there was more conversation happening about other countries who have already successfully put kids back at school. That might give confidence to people in North America who feel uncertain about it.
> That might give confidence to people in North America who feel uncertain about it.
This is like trying to give someone confidence to jump out of a plane without a parachute by talking about all the people who've safely jumped out of planes with parachutes. It's BS: the situations are different, so the examples don't apply.
Step 1 of opening us schools in the US is implementing policy to get to the (lower) infection rates of those countries that have been able to safely open up schools. Unfortunately, there are US political factions that just want to skip that step and go straight to the end of the plan.
I can’t believe how dismissive people are about people who are worried about their finances during this. So many false equivalencies being made about bankruptcy being preferable to death. I am not one of these people that is cavalier about COVID, it’s a real danger and the long term damage to the body is just being discovered. But we all know for sure what the long term health effects of poverty are. Whether you like…
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Seems to me that would of been an important data point they could of gathered during the survey.
Could be, but if you want to answer the question "what are most people worried about" the correct thing to do is ask a random sample of 1000 people, not just to ask the people who've lost jobs.
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Or people are assuming that the long term effects of COVID on children are similar to that of the flu on children, given similar death rates. (Which seems plausible, if you count '10x higher' as 'similar'. Overall, the flu is about 1/30th the IFR of COVID-19, but apparently most of the difference is at older ages) EDIT: And, in fact, the CDC says that the Flu is more dangerous to healthy children than COVID-19: https…
10x higher for people in their 80’s. Show me where the death rate is 10x higher than the flu for people under 40.
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Those countries have been more successful overall in limiting the spread of covid. In the US it's pretty much out of control in many areas. You can send kids back to school if community spread is limited and you can do effective contact tracing - but neither of those things is true in the US.
Also, a lot of countries have far more centralized authority to figure things out.
At this link, check out the euromomo section:
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
The charts above clearly show the effect on 14+ due to covid this year.
If you scroll down further, you can select 0-14 in the country-by-country data.
What you'll see there is that Sweden looks the same as all of the other countries for 0-14, and they did not close their schools for those ages.
EDIT: what's with the downvotes for showing data?