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well they do allow that, users have to reinstall every week though.
I'm not sure I'd qualify that as "allowing" -- seems like more of a loophole to me.
More of a testing procedure than a loophole.
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Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
#12What is Apple’s end game here? It seems like they’re fighting a losing battle and digging their own antitrust grave.
Pretty clever on Epic’s part to specifically highlight how Apple’s app store fee hits the user directly. Pretty short-sighted of Apple to immediately pull an app for providing consumers with additional disclosure about where their money is going.
Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
#13This is not surprising to me, and I have to say, I completely agree with it. Epic publicly and blatantly bypassed multiple App Store restrictions with their move today. Surely they were expecting this to happen, so what comes next? Perhaps Epic has been planning a major lawsuit and this will provide them with the reason to launch it? Edit: https://twitter.com/FortniteGame/status/1293984290326433792 They have an entir…
I'm very sure Epic saw this coming. I assume they, and many others, are spoiling for a fight with Apple over this and are willing to take this risk in bringing public opinion with them.
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#14How is the apple app store not the definition of a monopoly? Is there an competing app store on iphones that Epic could be using?
I think the argument is, you can always go use an Android phone if you don't like the iPhone.
Apple has a monopoly on its app-store the same way Amazon has a monopoly on what (and how) it sells on AWS for services.
Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
#15Saying the App Store is a monopoly every chance you get doesn’t mean it actually is.
Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
#16Really hoping regulators crack down hard on Apple's clearly anticompetitive practices. If Apple allowed sideloading the entire point would be, of course, moot, but Apple's continued refusal to allow this is really the biggest problem, IMO.
well they do allow that, users have to reinstall every week though.
Free certificates last a week. You can also pay Apple $99 to get a certificate that lasts a year, or pay a "UDID registration" website around $10 for the same (with some limitations).
Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
#17How is the apple app store not the definition of a monopoly? Is there an competing app store on iphones that Epic could be using?
> How is the apple app store not the definition of a monopoly? Is there an competing app store on iphones that Epic could be using?
I think it's all about how you define the market. Is the market for "apps on the iPhone" or "computer software in general"? Apple has monopoly control of the former but not the latter.
Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
#18How is the apple app store not the definition of a monopoly? Is there an competing app store on iphones that Epic could be using?
Because the iPhone is not a monopoly. Apparently Apple has 58% of the smartphone market in the US so it's not really all that comparable to Microsoft back in the day. So if you don't like the App Store, you can switch to Android.
(I personally don't agree with this viewpoint but it's how it is viewed by many. For one, I've spent $X on iOS apps, if I switch platforms I lose all of those apps. Feels unfair!)
Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
#19How is the apple app store not the definition of a monopoly? Is there an competing app store on iphones that Epic could be using?
There are a ton of competing app stores, the fact that you can't access them on an iPhone means nothing. Apple made a platform, they have every right to set the rules. Don't like it go somewhere else there are plenty of other choices.
Re: Apple removes Fortnite from App Store after Epic attempts to bypass fees
#20So, what is Epic's plan?
I have to assume they fully expected removal. So they must have some next step in mind.
Some kind of legal action? A complaint to regulators or a lawsuit? Are either of those likely to work?