Epic direct payment on mobile

Post by jaegerpicker » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 7:01 PM UTC

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How in the world is Apple preventing Epic from doing anything besides not following the rules of the App Store? If Epic wants to sell at a lower price they are free to do so in their own app store. Apple does not have to allow anyone on their platform. They built it, they own it, and they have the right to set it's rules. If Apple was the only mobile phone OS available then sure there is a case but iOS isn't even the…

Actually, Apple doesn't have the right to set it's rules and decide who can and can't be on their platform. Monopolies lose that, and Tim Cook was grilled on this exact topic by the House Antitrust Committee just days ago. Which is to say, even if the current laws allow Apple to act here, if it does, the next laws might prohibit it from doing so.

Post by trollied » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 7:01 PM UTC

Post by kbr » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 7:04 PM UTC

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Fortnite is popular enough to count as "big pressure" all on its own. I couldn't find recent numbers, but as of 2018 they had over 100M installs and were doing over $1M/day in revenue[0] and by early 2019 they'd already done more than half a billion[1]. [0]: https://venturebeat.com/2018/07/30/fortnite-clears-100-milli... [1]: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-02-08-fortnite-i...

Weird, I thought Fortnite was free to play. What could people possibly be spending money on? Edit: Also I thought Fortnite was a FPS. How can you play that on iOS?

Post by askl56 » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 7:05 PM UTC

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Pull it is exactly what I would do. Apple gets a cut of the paid apps, but $0 from free apps who show ads. Take away getting a cut from the paid apps then free apps suddenly cost the developers money—no more free apps. Imagine going to Walmart and telling them what you want them to give you all the revenue. Walmart will tell you exactly what they want to pay you, or you can leave. Maybe 30% is too much, but 0% is a t…

My god, Apple requiring a price for apps would be best thing that's happened to the mobile environment in AGES. I'm a mobile game dev and I would sacrifice a child to go back to the days when people would pay 0.99 for a game.

Post by hansvm » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 7:06 PM UTC

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Also, the legal standard in the US is laser-focused on whether consumer prices have gone up as a result of a company's practices. What better demonstration could Epic possibly create of how the App Store leads to price increases?

In the US we have such a lame standard of anti-trust. For example, you could have two businesses with 100% market share in an industry, and have a contract between the two stating "we will not provide benefits, or salaries exceeding $X, to employees in this sector" and you have zero anti-trust issues because it doesn't increase consumer prices. Abysmal.