I like jira. Our installation is pretty fast and I need something to track what is outstanding. The query interface is quite powerful, and I can use it to gather evidence that something needs more attention. It's got too many fields but you can turn these off, unfortunately for my org that requires IT so I live with its current configuration.
Jira Is a Microcosm of What’s Broken in Software Development
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#32"Though I think of Jira more like a spreadsheet. Very useful once upon a time. Outdated now. Static. Manual." This statement is so blatantly wrong that it actually put me off even reading the rest. Spreadsheets are stronger than they've ever been and are never going away, let alone being "outdated." Sure there are products that claim to be "the next spreadsheet" but most of those actually serve a different purpose: n…
Jira is a hot mess - I'm genuinely offended in behalf of spreadsheets that the OP would make that comparison.
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#33I spend hours per day in Jira. Half as a PM, and the other half as an IC. I've never used Jira Classic, so can't comment there. But Jira Next Gen projects have been great to work with. So much functionality and bloat is stripped out of Next Gen, sometimes too much was removed I think. I hear people hating on Jira very often, but at least the way our company uses it, it's great. The only thing I'd really want to chang…
> performance By Atlassian’s ToS, you are not allowed to « comment on the performance of the products ». I know no-one thinks this would be enforced here, but I just want to highlight that it doesn’t help a company to improve if they know they can just lawyer-up a problem away and avoid benchmarks and being compared on that topic.
Wow, that sounds like the most communist thing I've ever read in a ToS
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#34"Though I think of Jira more like a spreadsheet. Very useful once upon a time. Outdated now. Static. Manual." This statement is so blatantly wrong that it actually put me off even reading the rest. Spreadsheets are stronger than they've ever been and are never going away, let alone being "outdated." Sure there are products that claim to be "the next spreadsheet" but most of those actually serve a different purpose: n…
Yea spreadsheets were useful before and even more useful now. Agreed, they could be misused but what can't be misused ?
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#35That site is annoying. Popups. Fake "notifications".
As a bug tracker, JIRA seems to be OK. As a development system, not clear.
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#36Usually Jira sucks because it's not setup correctly to support teams' workflows, instead it's used to impose workflows on teams.
Jira can be as heavy or lightweight as you make it, but most of the suffering I see is because the way teams work isn't being supported by the Jira owners/admins.
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#37Hm. To me it sounds like they are ranting about micro controlling by too much detail in the jira. Sure, if you have to close 6 tickets for the same line of thought, it's annoying. So don't do that.
And on top of that, the new jira automation + smart commits make stuff much smoother. Assign yourself a ticket, push some stuff with the ticket ID to auto-progress to , commit something with "EXA-042 #close" and it auto-closes. Took us some time to get there, but now it's a smooth todo-list for the team.
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#38"Though I think of Jira more like a spreadsheet. Very useful once upon a time. Outdated now. Static. Manual." This statement is so blatantly wrong that it actually put me off even reading the rest. Spreadsheets are stronger than they've ever been and are never going away, let alone being "outdated." Sure there are products that claim to be "the next spreadsheet" but most of those actually serve a different purpose: n…
I read this as talking about a specific spreadsheet, not the general concept of spreadsheets. Like a specific excel file someone made long ago but it hasn't been updated in a long time and it's difficult to figure out if its up to date or not. It could be worded better.
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#39Learning Jira and accepting Jira both classic and NG has made me so much money, as a team leader, architect and program manager. Jira is the user plane for interacting with project items, however like others here said, everything else must be solved with clear communication, frequent ACKs with team members and so on. Yes, Jira Next Gen is nicer. But classic works fine too! Also Jira can be a lot of other things. It's…
But at what expense? Does Jira ever frustrate you? Imagine how it frustrates developers that hate working with overly complex time-sink software. I can change my email client. I can change my text editor to my liking. I can change nearly any other tool I use, but when a company uses Jira, I'm trapped using something that mostly gets in my way.
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#40I spend hours per day in Jira. Half as a PM, and the other half as an IC. I've never used Jira Classic, so can't comment there. But Jira Next Gen projects have been great to work with. So much functionality and bloat is stripped out of Next Gen, sometimes too much was removed I think. I hear people hating on Jira very often, but at least the way our company uses it, it's great. The only thing I'd really want to chang…
The JIRA hate is well deserved. I don’t think I can get past how slow it is compared to other offerings in the market (eg clubhouse). It’s UI is horrible and unintuitive. Search is difficult. Using it to track work is manual, it adds too much overhead.
I ask that you try clubhouse or another tool that has more modern UIs. You feel that JIRA next gen is great only compared to JIRA classic. Next gen is still years behind in UX.