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Re: Ask HN: How to give submission a second chance?

#3
I don't bother submitting stuff any more because:

1) There's too much noise on the new page.

2) It matters which at what time of day you submit an article.

3) There's too much chance about whether it'll been seen or not.

4) Someone else will post it with a slightly different URL (see above), and that's the one which will be noticed.

I am, of course, very grateful for everyone else who posts stuff. There's usually a good article or two on the front page.

I suppose the question we should ask is if it matters if decent articles are missed? There's lots of text out there on the internet.

[edit: Removed three trivial ways to defeat the dup detector.]

Re: Ask HN: How to give submission a second chance?

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There will always be great articles that no one reads. That's just the way it. The internet is too big for it to be any other way.

The question is rather: how do make sure the average quality of the articles on the front page is as high as possible?

Probably we're quite close to as good as it gets.

One option would be to have a "runner ups"-page ("bubblers"?) which lists the newly submitted articles that are _almost_ on the front page. So instead of two pages (front and new) we would have three (front, bubblers, new).

The algorithm would be simple: the 30 latest articles with more than 1 point that are not yet on the front page.

Hm. This actually sounds like quite a fun little weekend project. Anyone up for it? Is almosthn.com available? :)

Re: Ask HN: How to give submission a second chance?

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post #7

Maybe you can submit twice, but it costs you 10 karma or something the second time you submit...

Better yet, make it cost you 10 karma to submit it in the first place and then the noise on the new page would all be gone.

And better even yet, allow you to spend more karma points to give it a higher initial score.

And still better, when a thread gets archived (when the comment thread becomes read-only; happens after some N days), add its current score delta (the number of points it has now, minus the number it had when you initially invested yours) back into the user's karma, times some coefficient (possibly just 1.)

And finally, allow anyone to do this (invest karma; reap eventual score-delta rewards), not just the initial poster.

Bam: average-sized link futures market.

Re: Ask HN: How to give submission a second chance?

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better yet, make it cost you 10 karma to submit it in the first place and then the noise on the new page would all be gone.

And better even yet, allow you to spend more karma points to give it a higher initial score. And still better, when a thread gets archived (when the comment thread becomes read-only; happens after some N days), add its current score delta (the number of points it has now, minus the number it had when you initially invested yours) back into the user's karma, times some coefficient (possibly just 1.) And finally, allow…

I like the sound of this game, much more interesting than just reading techy news all day. What do we get when we win? Is it better than the knowledge I currently get? Something like kudos from people I'll never meet?

remove tongue from cheek

Seriously, why? This would seem to me to be the perfect way to breed people who care more about karma than content... and they're the problem, IMHO.

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