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The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

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Re: The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

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Direct election interference. Please call your elected representatives and demand action. There is no safe alternative to voting by mail in the middle of a pandemic that the Trump administration has completely bungled a response to.

We are watching the creation of a banana republic in realtime.

Re: The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

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How about we don’t have a mail in vote and just make the day a holiday.

How does that help when some places have only one polling station for 100k people? And there is a global pandemic, so we don't want 100k people congregating in the same crowded space?

Yeah, polling stations are dimensioned for typical turnout, which includes a majority voting by mail.

Re: The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

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My understanding is that in most areas without existing voter suppression efforts anything postmarked by election day should be counted. This will probably delay the announcement of the winner unless it is a landslide, which is not really that big of a deal unless you are a cable new channel that feels it is necessary to have 24/7 coverage of the election until the winner is announced.

This is untrue - different states have different standards by which mail in ballots will be counted. A postmark on or before Election Day is no guarantee your vote will be tallied, depending on where you live.

Re: The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

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How about we don’t have a mail in vote and just make the day a holiday.

That might work in a normal election year, but this year that solution would still put people in a bind between risking getting a severe infectious disease and exercising their democratic rights.

Re: The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

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If we can't trust the government, then we need to rely on our community. Sounds like we need communities to band together and have a group collect & deliver mail-in ballots and make sure that people in charge of counting the ballots are onboard to ensure end-to-end compliance. I will be standing in line this year. Covid be damned. Though, my next fear is that there will be a shortage of ballots in left-leaning areas.

Please don't incite criminal behavior. Under law, only certain people are authorized to deliver mail-in ballots -- typically family, elections staff, and postal workers. Ballots have chain of custody issues, and it would be terribly easy for one party to organize a collection drive, look at the sender, and decide to save or recycle based on party affiliation of the voter. The thing that changed this year is the openl…

>Please don't incite criminal behavior

This is a gross oversimplification of morality. Regardless, I agree what the parent is proposing wouldn't work well.

Re: The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

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We do just in time shipping on top of the post office, so have visibility here. We're definitely seeing mail being delivered more slowly, with more delays. At the same time, it's a question of degree, not a major dismantling of the post office. I'd guess 90% of our packages are still arriving within a day of when they were supposed to.

For context, I run bottomless.com, YCW19. We're shipping hundreds of packages from dozens of locations around the US every day.

Re: The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

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I know this is an annoying thing to say, but: This is an argument for not having mail delivery being controlled by elected politicians.

It sure is, but privatizing opens up an entire other can of worms. It'd be far easier to "disappear" someone's mail in a private corporation unless there is strong legal oversight. And that brings it back to having elected politicians controlling who's auditing the private delivery companies. It's a mess.

Re: The Post Office Is Deactivating Mail Sorting Machines Ahead of the Election

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How about we don’t have a mail in vote and just make the day a holiday.

We've actively lobbied for that for years--Republicans have refused, because they know that the people working low-income jobs whose managers will not let them off to go vote tend to lean Democratic. There are some states where the best we've managed is being allowed to take "unpaid" time off to go vote, with the caveat that your employer cannot fire you for doing so. Some states don't even have that much. Guess whic…

Well, many of those people also don't get to take Federal holidays off. See "Black Friday", "Presidents' Day Sale", etc.
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