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This appears to be a topic that the HN community is unwilling to discuss neutrally.
What do you feel the ideal neutrality for this topic looks like on HN?
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Dave Chapelle - Bird Revelation. I used to do shows for drug dealers that wanted to clean their money up. One time I did a real good set, and these motherf--kers called me into the back room. They gave me $25,000 in cash […] I jumped on the subway and started heading towards Brooklyn at one o’clock in the morning. Never been that terrified in my life. I’d never in my life had something that somebody else would want.…
While a good metaphor it still misses out easy identification. Women are often easily identifiable as such. Take that $25000 and strap it to the front of your chest...
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I think stabbing someone has a very high chance of making the situation far more dangerous than just asking the person to stop. Also, it has been true for centuries that a woman screaming "help!" would draw the attention of all the men in the area (for example the carriage driver in this case) who would be eager to beat the other man to a pulp if he didn't stop harassing her. Women and children first into the lifeboa…
> Women and children first into the lifeboats, remember? More than just an empty phrase: of the passengers on the Titanic, 72% of adult women survived, 50% of children, and 16% of adult men: http://www.icyousee.org/titanic.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/world-history/women...
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Dave Chapelle - Bird Revelation. I used to do shows for drug dealers that wanted to clean their money up. One time I did a real good set, and these motherf--kers called me into the back room. They gave me $25,000 in cash […] I jumped on the subway and started heading towards Brooklyn at one o’clock in the morning. Never been that terrified in my life. I’d never in my life had something that somebody else would want.…
While a good metaphor it still misses out easy identification. Women are often easily identifiable as such. Take that $25000 and strap it to the front of your chest...
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What do you feel the ideal neutrality for this topic looks like on HN?
For example, engaging epicureanideal's post with arguments showing his opinion to be wrong, instead of just hiding it with hundreds of downvotes. That post and its replies was like 90% of the discussion when I first checked, and now it's one light gray row at the bottom. As is, there isn't much of a discussing left in here.
Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.
Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That destroys the curiosity this site exists for.
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The "hundreds of downvotes" and how the UI reflects the downvotes are two facts of life. Indeed your initiative to change these facts is not interesting to me.
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> Women and children first into the lifeboats, remember? More than just an empty phrase: of the passengers on the Titanic, 72% of adult women survived, 50% of children, and 16% of adult men: http://www.icyousee.org/titanic.html
The Titanic is actually notable for being an exception to the rule of every man for himself, largely attributed to the action's of the Titanic's captain: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/world-history/women...
I guess society is more egalitarian than I thought.
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For example, engaging epicureanideal's post with arguments showing his opinion to be wrong, instead of just hiding it with hundreds of downvotes. That post and its replies was like 90% of the discussion when I first checked, and now it's one light gray row at the bottom. As is, there isn't much of a discussing left in here.
HN guidelines say: Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That destroys the curiosity this site exists for. --- The "hundreds of downvotes" and how the UI reflects the downvotes are two facts of life. Indeed your initiative to change these facts is not interesting to me.
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If an aggressive homeless person approaches me on the street and I'm not sure of his state of mind and intentions, should I be allowed to stab him?
If you had a serious reason to see his actions as an attack that puts your life or health at risk, serious enough for the jury to believe you — well, yes. It's self-defense, and it does not matter whether the attacker is homeless.
You never know whether someone will attack you. Giving people the right to stab any person who makes them feel threatened is de facto giving people the right to stab people at will.
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If you had a serious reason to see his actions as an attack that puts your life or health at risk, serious enough for the jury to believe you — well, yes. It's self-defense, and it does not matter whether the attacker is homeless.
Nah. Relying on the stabber's self attestation "oh I felt really threatened" is always stupid. That's how you get situations like Trayvon Martin. You never know whether someone will attack you. Giving people the right to stab any person who makes them feel threatened is de facto giving people the right to stab people at will.
OTOH if you were to say "he just looked at me just so, and I felt really threatened, so I fought back", it's likely not going to fly.
> "When he lifted his arm and draped it low across her back, Leoti had enough. In a move that would thrill victim of modern-day subway harassment, she reached for her hatpin—nearly a foot long—and plunged it into the meat of the man’s arm. He let out a terrible scream and left the coach at the next stop." Although what the man did is inappropriate, stabbing him seems excessive. She could've first asked him to stop. >…