I don't believe there is a way to stop end-to-end encryption. You can easily make data look non-encrypted but actually contain something encrypted underneath.
a.k.a. steganography
Bill Gates advocates for stopping end-to-end encryption
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Re: Bill Gates advocates for stopping end-to-end encryption
#22Is this click-bait news, I cannot tell anymore?
Re: Bill Gates advocates for stopping end-to-end encryption
#23He didn't outright advocate for it from the interview that I believe motivated this article, but he did pretty strongly imply that end-to-end encryption facilitates crime and shouldn't be allowed: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/28/bill-gates-lies-spread-faste... >“Some of the messages on their platform, they don’t even see because of the encryption on WhatsApp,” Gates said. “In order to not have any responsibility, the…
Nice equivocation of CP and asking critical questions about vaccine safety.
The term "anti-vaccine" does not refer to people who are only "asking critical questions about vaccine safety".
Re: Bill Gates advocates for stopping end-to-end encryption
#24Bill, I thought you were a pretty smart guy... Can't you think of anything that will increase public health knowledge and awareness (especially vaccines) that doesn't involve monitoring private conversations for goodthink? I think this is a very lazy way to go about you foundation's mission statement.
If we can't (and I really don't think this is the case), then anti-vaxxers are the price we pay for a free and open society. To quote David Foster Wallace, there is a "baseline vulnerability" that a free society has (whether it be terrorism or the proliferation misinformation), and those that succumb to those vulnerabilities are "sacrifices on the altar of freedom." [0]
[0] - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/11/just-as...
Re: Bill Gates advocates for stopping end-to-end encryption
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
So clicking the wired link in the post then doing ctrl+f I found where they are getting this from https://www.wired.com/story/bill-gates-on-covid-most-us-test... I think wired is generally not out there trying to libel people. I am honesty curious why Gates has been out of the public sphere for over ten years but is suddenly out there shilling against crypto for 'the children'.
I had a look at that article but I couldn't find where in that article he is "shilling against crypto for 'the children'". Can you share a quote?
There are these:
> When you have encrypted, there is no way to know what it is. I personally believe government should not allow those types of lies or fraud or child pornography.
> Being big in the social media business is no simple game, like the encryption issue.
Personally, I wouldn't call these quotes "shilling", but Gates does seem to have funny thoughts on encryption. Maybe half-baked, but he is smart enough to not voice half-baked thoughts on an interview.
However, I'm also sceptical about the type of "free speech" reclaimthenet.org is advocating. The tone of the article is very sensationalistic, focusing more on calling-out Gates, rather than debunking his thoughts.
Re: Bill Gates advocates for stopping end-to-end encryption
#26Bill Gates’ narcissism is really on display lately. There is something in his interviews that suggest the guy cannot see where anyone can reasonably disagree with him on anything. He lumps everyone who disagrees with him into camps of crazies in an extraordinarily uncharitable way. Combine this fact with the public, 20 year lie that he is giving away his fortune, it’s time for him to step down from public life. He is…
sad to see a heterdox opinion that's articulated clearly without being needlessly abrasive get downvoted into oblivion
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nice equivocation of CP and asking critical questions about vaccine safety.
The term "anti-vaccine" does not refer to people who are only "asking critical questions about vaccine safety".
Sure it does. Anyone questioning the mainstream narrative is immediately labeled an "evil anti-vaxxer". Try it sometime.
Re: Bill Gates advocates for stopping end-to-end encryption
#28Bill Gates’ narcissism is really on display lately. There is something in his interviews that suggest the guy cannot see where anyone can reasonably disagree with him on anything. He lumps everyone who disagrees with him into camps of crazies in an extraordinarily uncharitable way. Combine this fact with the public, 20 year lie that he is giving away his fortune, it’s time for him to step down from public life. He is…
sad to see a heterdox opinion that's articulated clearly without being needlessly abrasive get downvoted into oblivion
Wow - you don't think "Bill Gates’ narcissism is really on display lately" is needlessly abrasive?
Re: Bill Gates advocates for stopping end-to-end encryption
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had a look at that article but I couldn't find where in that article he is "shilling against crypto for 'the children'". Can you share a quote?
There are these: > When you have encrypted, there is no way to know what it is. I personally believe government should not allow those types of lies or fraud or child pornography. > Being big in the social media business is no simple game, like the encryption issue. Personally, I wouldn't call these quotes "shilling", but Gates does seem to have funny thoughts on encryption. Maybe half-baked, but he is smart enough t…
I thought he seemed pretty exasperated in that interview on corona response. Maybe he let his guard down, I was surprised to read the encryption stuff too.
Re: Bill Gates advocates for stopping end-to-end encryption
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
sad to see a heterdox opinion that's articulated clearly without being needlessly abrasive get downvoted into oblivion
Wow - you don't think "Bill Gates’ narcissism is really on display lately" is needlessly abrasive?
that's not really abrasive, it's critical sure, but something like "gates is a pompous prick" is an abrasive way of saying he's a narcissist