NSA Owns Everything (2015)

Post by tehjoker » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:10 PM UTC

rriepe wrote: post #121

jacquesm wrote: post #104

The difference between a theory, a conspiracy theory and the truth are best described by varying levels of evidence. A theory is not currently accepted as the truth, but it might be the truth. A conspiracy theory is something that has been proven to be untrue, but people still believe it and pass it on. The truth is the internally consistent and fact supported state of the world as it was and as it is. There were man…

The phrase "conspiracy theory" is, top-to-bottom, a word to get you to stop thinking. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's just the history of the phrase. It's the outgroup concept applied directly to the concept of new or disagreeing information. A pre-emptive propaganda strike on anyone who might ask questions.

Post by feralimal » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:17 PM UTC

jermier wrote: post #117

feralimal wrote: post #76

The Snowden stuff was the event that shook me to my core. I was a happy technologist till then, thinking that such was the nature of life and progress simply was unfolding in front of me. However, the way the event was covered by the media - told a different story. The media focussed on the man rather than the info he provided, so the conversation was 'where was he?', 'where was his girlfriend?', etc - that told me e…

> things like bits of his glasses disappearing indicate that he could be CGI So you're essentially saying the revelations were a false flag operation? I considered that possibility, but Snowden's background is well researched and the first thing media outlets look at before publishing their findings. The Guardian probably thoroughly doxed him before publishing anything. And in interviews he comes across as sincere an…

Post by lern_too_spel » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:17 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #104

The difference between a theory, a conspiracy theory and the truth are best described by varying levels of evidence. A theory is not currently accepted as the truth, but it might be the truth. A conspiracy theory is something that has been proven to be untrue, but people still believe it and pass it on. The truth is the internally consistent and fact supported state of the world as it was and as it is. There were man…

Post by leetcrew » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:22 PM UTC

ctack wrote: post #135

maerF0x0 wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> willing to burn their career to provide the proof. This should have been the case as in normal whistleblower cases. Seems it was not. I also suspect that Russia will eventually try and call the favor to coerce him to do something for them EDIT: had no idea this would be so negatively viewed. If you're going to down vote please indicate what you're against...

Him being there makes Russia look more tolerant than his home country.. Which is already a Pretty big bonus.

Post by boomboomsubban » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:31 PM UTC

maerF0x0 wrote: post #130

LMYahooTFY wrote: post #112

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>All it took was one person willing to burn their career to provide the proof. This is wrong. It took a LOT more than that. It took one man forgoing his life and liberty , and a group of people endangering theirs to assist him. Snowdon is not going to get his life nor his liberty back, ever. It took multiple institutions dedicated to publishing the truth to actually bring the news to a wide audience, and it didn't en…

> willing to burn their career to provide the proof. This should have been the case as in normal whistleblower cases. Seems it was not. I also suspect that Russia will eventually try and call the favor to coerce him to do something for them EDIT: had no idea this would be so negatively viewed. If you're going to down vote please indicate what you're against...