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Re: Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed

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Post by mberning » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:08 PM UTC

apotecaryman wrote: post #9

xyst wrote: post #2

I won't be buying Intel CPUs for years to come. Haven't upgraded since 2016. Years of "incremental" improvements while still advertising $1000+ CPU prices has deterred me for quite some time. Intel fanboys might eat it up though. Given their history of significant delays in the current roadmap, how does this compare to their competition who is quickly advancing on 10nm? Also what is this internal naming schema? > The…

I never understood this idea that someone feels sleighted for something out of their price range that they perceive should be valued lower for their benefit while complaining that the company is setting up prices for their benefit too. Is it grounded on facts or mostly an emotional response?

A very succinct description of a common thought pattern. You see it frequently applied to premium brands like Apple and BMW.

Re: Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed

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Post by IntelMiner » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:10 PM UTC

Ijumfs wrote: post #8

Can I get this particular Intel rig without the Intel ME backdoors courtesy of the Talpiot program? No? OK then, I'll stick with Ryzen.

...Which itself has similar "backdoors"

Re: Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed

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Post by wolfgke » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:10 PM UTC

Analysis by SemiAccurate on SuperFin: https://semiaccurate.com/2020/08/13/intel-talks-about-10nm-s...

Re: Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed

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Post by mattferderer » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:11 PM UTC

alfiedotwtf wrote: post #6

xyst wrote: post #2

I won't be buying Intel CPUs for years to come. Haven't upgraded since 2016. Years of "incremental" improvements while still advertising $1000+ CPU prices has deterred me for quite some time. Intel fanboys might eat it up though. Given their history of significant delays in the current roadmap, how does this compare to their competition who is quickly advancing on 10nm? Also what is this internal naming schema? > The…

Everyone I know, including myself, have gone AMD 39xx. Damn what a beast at a reasonable price.

I was very hesitant due to past experiences with AMD over 20 years, especially drivers.

I ended up going with a Ryzen 9 though & it's been flawless so far. Great performance. Wouldn't look at an Intel anytime in the near future for a CPU.

Re: Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed

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Post by Ijumfs » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:13 PM UTC

IntelMiner wrote: post #12

Ijumfs wrote: post #8

Can I get this particular Intel rig without the Intel ME backdoors courtesy of the Talpiot program? No? OK then, I'll stick with Ryzen.

...Which itself has similar "backdoors"

Not according to security researchers.

Re: Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed

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Post by amateescu » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:14 PM UTC

IntelMiner wrote: post #12

Ijumfs wrote: post #8

Can I get this particular Intel rig without the Intel ME backdoors courtesy of the Talpiot program? No? OK then, I'll stick with Ryzen.

...Which itself has similar "backdoors"

[citation needed]

Re: Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed

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Post by ResidentSleeper » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:19 PM UTC

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #7

xyst wrote: post #2

I won't be buying Intel CPUs for years to come. Haven't upgraded since 2016. Years of "incremental" improvements while still advertising $1000+ CPU prices has deterred me for quite some time. Intel fanboys might eat it up though. Given their history of significant delays in the current roadmap, how does this compare to their competition who is quickly advancing on 10nm? Also what is this internal naming schema? > The…

I don't understand why the pricing of Intel's enthusiast CPUs should affect your buying decision if you're not in the market for an enthusiast cpu. That being said, if what you've got is working for you I certainly support the idea of sticking with it.

Being in the market for an enthusiast CPU is predicated on being enthusiastic about CPUs in the first place, and that's become somewhat difficult in the last couple of years.

Re: Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed

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Post by willis936 » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:19 PM UTC

alfiedotwtf wrote: post #6

xyst wrote: post #2

I won't be buying Intel CPUs for years to come. Haven't upgraded since 2016. Years of "incremental" improvements while still advertising $1000+ CPU prices has deterred me for quite some time. Intel fanboys might eat it up though. Given their history of significant delays in the current roadmap, how does this compare to their competition who is quickly advancing on 10nm? Also what is this internal naming schema? > The…

Everyone I know, including myself, have gone AMD 39xx. Damn what a beast at a reasonable price.

Right? I assembled a number crunching machine for $1200 a few months ago. The 3900X was under $400 at the time. I can’t imagine spending an extra 50% on a comparable machine just say I can say it has Intel Inside.

Re: Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed

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Post by nimish » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:22 PM UTC

Intel advertised a bunch of fancy transistors and process improvements well after it was clear 10nm as a whole was a bust (COAG, Single Diffusion Break, probably more)

Color me skeptical.

Re: Intel’s 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake SoC Detailed

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Post by nimish » Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 2:23 PM UTC

a012 wrote: post #4

So this CPU is about to compete with AMD Ryzen 4000 laptop series?

AMD Ryzen has a track record of shipping on time, whereas novel process Intel CPUs have not shipped on time for nearly half a decade.

They will certainly compete at some point but I'd expect Ryzen 4000/5000 mobile processors to be out when AMD says they will.