All banks in the EU are required to use 2FA, I'm curious how these hackers get around that.
That's why the second, more advanced phishing page was trying to immediately log in with the just acquired login credentials.
If a 2FA challenge is presented, it is relayed to the victim on the phishing website, and as soon as the code is submitted, is it relayed to the real banks website in turn.
How can it be illegal sending a few fake data to a website? And anyway I doubt they will ever sue you, at most you could be targeted for some revenge attack if they are really pissed off and you don't hide your traces.
IANAL: This is what I expect the relevant text in the CFAA is... knowingly causes the transmission of a program, information, code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damage without authorization, to a protected computer;
noob question: what does an \ at the end of a bash script do? Is it the same as ; ?
The opposite. ; is the same as a newline. Prepending the newline with a backslash \ is like saying "pretend this newline isn't here". So all of the -H arguments get applied to the same command in the example, rather than being treated as commands in their own right.
Oh... I am having one of those moments where I feel like everyone else but me knew this and I'm a dummy. But when put like this, I realize \ here is an escape character thing, making the newline into \\n.
As much as I think things like this can be fun, depending on your jurisdiction (and tbh the US loves extraditing people for silly computer crimes), it might not be advisable. This is all but certainly illegal at least within the US. I’m sure most competent security experts have been tempted to do things like this, or SQLi a scammer’s form and nuke their DB, and usually bad things won’t happen to you, you might find t…
What do you think the scammers are going to do, call the police?
I have a colleague who is a security researcher. And every now and then, he tells me he got a threat from an internet criminal about "how they know where he lives".
So you DDOSed their backend but they could've whitelist their IP range and blacklist all the others for incoming requests. What you did does nothing against flexible and adaptive adversaries.
People who buy phishing kit and set them up are typically not flexible and adaptive adversaries.
While it may be technically illegal, considering the victims are themselves worse criminals caught in the act, I really doubt anyone is going to give you trouble over this. Unless authorities are looking for an excuse to prosecute you, of course, but there's plenty of bad PR to be had for authorities acting on behalf of criminals trying to steal people's banking credentials.
Maybe if you don't cause any collateral damage, you might have a low chance of conviction by a jury because the victim is highly non-sympathetic. (I'm not a lawyer. This is NOT LEGAL ADVICE.) That doesn't mean you won't get charged and incur a ton of legal costs if you pursue a jury trial rather than settling. Always remember that U.S. courts are courts of law, not courts of justice. That's usually a good thing (less…
> "Always remember that U.S. courts are courts of law, not courts of justice. That's usually a good thing (less left to interpretation)"
Are they? My impression is that US courts rely heavily on the whims of a jury and the judge, leading to very different outcomes for similar cases. Though often leading to injustice (heavy punishments for poor and/or black people, light punishments for rich and/or white people) rather than justice.
Well, with a spam viagra site, I think the point is keeping it up. On topic, it's crazy how willing some people are to defraud their investors.
Send like a missed opportunity to pivot into a spam viagra hosting site
But then your costs get allocated to the spam operation. The owner of the website is benefiting because of the "traffic" they are receiving that is attributed to their non-spam venture. The hacker is benefiting because of the free hosting they are getting. The loser is anyone interested in buying the site and having the price hinge on the traffic.
Maybe if you don't cause any collateral damage, you might have a low chance of conviction by a jury because the victim is highly non-sympathetic. (I'm not a lawyer. This is NOT LEGAL ADVICE.) That doesn't mean you won't get charged and incur a ton of legal costs if you pursue a jury trial rather than settling. Always remember that U.S. courts are courts of law, not courts of justice. That's usually a good thing (less…
> "Always remember that U.S. courts are courts of law, not courts of justice. That's usually a good thing (less left to interpretation)" Are they? My impression is that US courts rely heavily on the whims of a jury and the judge, leading to very different outcomes for similar cases. Though often leading to injustice (heavy punishments for poor and/or black people, light punishments for rich and/or white people) rathe…
I think their biases would have worse consequences if their goal was following some intuitive gut feeling of justice rather than having a goal of applying the law even when the law is known to be imperfect. That is, the less explicit the rules are, the more wiggle room there is for bias to act.
As much as I think things like this can be fun, depending on your jurisdiction (and tbh the US loves extraditing people for silly computer crimes), it might not be advisable. This is all but certainly illegal at least within the US. I’m sure most competent security experts have been tempted to do things like this, or SQLi a scammer’s form and nuke their DB, and usually bad things won’t happen to you, you might find t…
What do you think the scammers are going to do, call the police?
They presumably wouldn't call the police to report you for messing with their scam, but it's not unthinkable–if they're able to identify who you are–that they could SWAT you. I believe Brian Krebs has been SWAT'ed multiple times, and has had heroin mailed to his house to frame him.