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How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by chrisco255 »

antioedipus wrote: post #13
DrJones1098 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is false, immunity is strong and long-lasting. The news is trying to sell papers. A vaccine is also an attenuated version of the virus so if becoming immune from the virus doesn't last long it won't last long from a vaccine.

Most of your reply isn’t really correct. > A vaccine is also an attenuated version of the virus so if becoming immune from the virus doesn't last long it won't last long from a vaccine. A vaccine can be an attenuated virus, or a piece of mRNA or DNA, or a distinctive viral protein. Which type of vaccine you use+the adjuvants that go with it can result in very different immune responses and efficacy over time. > This…

The only reason people are testing positive again after having Covid and healing from it is because the test is very poor at distinguishing between various coronaviruses, the vast majority of which are harmless and sometimes cause the common cold. There is a big false positive rate as a result.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by scambier »

DrJones1098 wrote: post #9

We only need to vaccinate high risk people. Under 50 crowd does not need a vaccination.

I'd rather not get sick and risk dying, even if I'm under 50. Thank you very much.

And more importantly, even if the risk of death is low for me, I can still transmit it to high risk people.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by chrisco255 »

alias-dev wrote: post #15
lez wrote: post #12

It should be opt-in AND unvaccinated ppl should never face consequences in the future.

You mean consequences outside of drowning in their own fluids?

Look at the death rates for people under 45...it's like 1 in 10,000. In some cities and for certain age brackets, you're more likely to be murdered or commit suicide than to die from Covid. The car accident fatality rate is roughly 1 in 10,000.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by chrisco255 »

bigbluedots wrote: post #20
lez wrote: post #12

It should be opt-in AND unvaccinated ppl should never face consequences in the future.

The point of having a vaccine is to stop the spread of the disease. For that to work, we may need to mandate that people are vaccinated, and I am ok with that.

No, sorry. My body. My choice.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by noir_lord »

chrisco255 wrote: post #23
alias-dev wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean consequences outside of drowning in their own fluids?

Look at the death rates for people under 45...it's like 1 in 10,000. In some cities and for certain age brackets, you're more likely to be murdered or commit suicide than to die from Covid. The car accident fatality rate is roughly 1 in 10,000.

It's not just the death rate.

It's long term physical damage even if you survive.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by chrisco255 »

noir_lord wrote: post #25
chrisco255 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look at the death rates for people under 45...it's like 1 in 10,000. In some cities and for certain age brackets, you're more likely to be murdered or commit suicide than to die from Covid. The car accident fatality rate is roughly 1 in 10,000.

It's not just the death rate. It's long term physical damage even if you survive.

Vast majority of people who contract this illness don't even show symptoms at all. That's what's weird about this disease. It seems to affect the elderly disproportionately but for younger people and people with no risk factors, the risk is exceedingly low that one will experience SARS at all.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by bigbluedots »

chrisco255 wrote: post #24
bigbluedots wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point of having a vaccine is to stop the spread of the disease. For that to work, we may need to mandate that people are vaccinated, and I am ok with that.

No, sorry. My body. My choice.

Nope, not when your choice affects the rest of us.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by derbOac »

Nitrolo wrote: post #18
zaro wrote: post #5

Why would we need that? I think a lot of people will get immunity the natural way, even now a lot of people are having covid w/o any symptoms at all, and they will have immunity.

Because getting infected still carries a significant risk of illness, permanent health problems, or death with it, especially for at-risk groups. Getting vaccinated would sidestep that risk. And even if everybody did recover, there's the economic cost of an infection. Productivity missed because workers are sick at home, or worse in a hospital being cared for. I'm not sure what the dollar figures are, but I would not…

FWIW, correctly or incorrectly, I just read the OP as saying that people who have already been infected might not need to be vaccinated because they already have been exposed. So that figure might be smaller than what the BBC is floating. Not saying that affects the challenge appreciably, just that I read it differently.

Re: How will the world vaccinate seven billion?

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Post by Blahagun »

alias-dev wrote: post #15
lez wrote: post #12

It should be opt-in AND unvaccinated ppl should never face consequences in the future.

You mean consequences outside of drowning in their own fluids?

What are you talking about? What drowning? The clinical picture hasn't been that different compared to previous years with outbreaks of respiratory illnesses. In fact in some countries the death rates have actually been lower. The only reason this year we are talking about it is because for some reason it became a huge media thing. There was no reason previous years to not talk about respiratory illnesses. They have always been serious thing and people are dying each year from them. They have always been dangerous to elderly people and people with other illnesses. I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe all of a sudden.
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