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As a Toronto resident there was more than enough news about how well reasoned arguments from Privacy experts weren't addressed very well by Sidewalk labs.
It isn't a very trivial thing when high profile people like Ann Cavoukian resigns from the project.
Portraying it as a case of NIMBYism gone too far is just revisionist history.
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Did money flow from the city to Alphabet? My understanding was that it was hugely in the opposite direction, with sidewalk investing alphabet money into the project.
right because with Google, the customer is the product.
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As the relationship advice goes "when someone shows you who they are believe them." Plenty documented examples of Googling acting in the stated way across various products. No reason to assume they won't act the same in this case sooner or latter.
What evidence is there that "google hates passwords"? That's literally the only way to log into a google account.
I'm not quite sure how this is portrayed as NIMBYism. As a Toronto resident there was more than enough news about how well reasoned arguments from Privacy experts weren't addressed very well by Sidewalk labs. It isn't a very trivial thing when high profile people like Ann Cavoukian resigns from the project. Portraying it as a case of NIMBYism gone too far is just revisionist history.
I'm not quite sure how this is portrayed as NIMBYism. As a Toronto resident there was more than enough news about how well reasoned arguments from Privacy experts weren't addressed very well by Sidewalk labs. It isn't a very trivial thing when high profile people like Ann Cavoukian resigns from the project. Portraying it as a case of NIMBYism gone too far is just revisionist history.
Agreed. Most people I know were at least curious/interested about the project, but also had serious reservations about Google's privacy and data collection and wanted stricter oversight on how their personal data would be used.
Beyond that, how many would have opted for "don't collect let alone use anything about me". I have never met anyone who actually wants their physical movement to be tracked by advertisers, not for infinite starbucks discounts. Most hesitate at the idea of employers or even family members tracking them 24/7.
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Agreed. Most people I know were at least curious/interested about the project, but also had serious reservations about Google's privacy and data collection and wanted stricter oversight on how their personal data would be used.
>>stricter oversight on how their personal data would be used. Beyond that, how many would have opted for "don't collect let alone use anything about me". I have never met anyone who actually wants their physical movement to be tracked by advertisers, not for infinite starbucks discounts. Most hesitate at the idea of employers or even family members tracking them 24/7.
Is that a real thing?
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>>stricter oversight on how their personal data would be used. Beyond that, how many would have opted for "don't collect let alone use anything about me". I have never met anyone who actually wants their physical movement to be tracked by advertisers, not for infinite starbucks discounts. Most hesitate at the idea of employers or even family members tracking them 24/7.
> Most hesitate at allowing their employers to track them after hours Is that a real thing?
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But people do have to travel through there. Commissioners Ave is the only real east-west fare through the entire region. I used to have to bus through that region every single day (I don't miss the 72 Cherry one bit). Managing privacy permissions of anyone just commuting through would be a logistical nightmare—and not just for Sidewalk.
Sidewalk would collect more personal, identifiable data on pass-through commuters than governments and companies already do? Maybe, and if so it's a valid point. But I'd bet (money) not. No facial recognition would be used. Doubt they'd track you in a bus. They were well aware of privacy concerns and their data collection would be under intense scrutiny. Data wouldn't be used outside Sidewalk without consent, de-iden…
As for the rest, I'm not much of a gambler.
Alphabet's current policies on data collection are typically opt-out, so I didn't hold out much hope when I largely saw a lot of hand-waving surrounding data policies until the project was pressed by the public about it. That cost me a lot of confidence the project.
And I come from the place of following the project eagerly at the start. Even looked for jobs with them at one point.
The best part about new 21st century cities being built from scratch is kindergarten for tenure with primary services. Resetting tenure for a new century solves 99% of the problems with trying to build on-top of inefficiency (schools, public utilities, local government, etc). Toronto would have been better off with a sister city, developing a DFW-like economic area for the future instead of accelerating urban rot.
>is kindergarten for tenure with primary services. i know what those words mean, but not in this context. what does this mean?