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Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

#81

"For Mozilla folks looking for a landing spot, Safari and WebKit teams have a number of openings. DM if interested in any of the below: - HTTP stack - Web dev tools - 3D/AR/VR - Mac app - iOS app - Web Extensions - Any web platform area (layout, web APIs, ...) " https://twitter.com/othermaciej/status/1293252487021916161

Offering a Safari job to someone from Mozilla probably hurts them more then getting fired.

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

#82

It's very weird that Mozilla is laying off 25% of its workforce while at the same time spending oodles of cash on its Fix The Internet incubator. I'm not a business major; maybe this is normal.

If revenue from Firefox isn't enough to pay the bills anymore, then not funding R&D is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

'revenue' from Firefox was never enough. It's only really just struck me that of course Google funding them made a dependency and 1) made the company grow beyond its needs, and 2) made it not seek self-sufficiency.

If Google are stopping the money then FF is like a person with no money taken in by Google and hooked on drugs; once they're kicked out they can't fund the habit and reliance on Google has meant they've not had to find ways to fund themselves.

I realised Google held the cards, but hadn't twigged on how the excessive nature of the funding made Firefox/Mozilla weaker.

Unless FF were aware of how that might go and put half of their Google money into investments?

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

#83

It's very weird that Mozilla is laying off 25% of its workforce while at the same time spending oodles of cash on its Fix The Internet incubator. I'm not a business major; maybe this is normal.

The Fix The Internet incubator doesn't look like very much money is involved. A $2500 stipend for participants, a top prize of $25,000, not that much money. Whereas layoffs of 250 people will save maybe $50 - $100 million a year.

Of course, perhaps they will also cut future funding to this incubator, and it's just a different timing that they announce it.

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

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post #54

It's very weird that Mozilla is laying off 25% of its workforce while at the same time spending oodles of cash on its Fix The Internet incubator. I'm not a business major; maybe this is normal.

Fixing the browser revenue is at best difficult (i.e. significantly increase market share, more hard work to do on the browser which will cost $$$ for labor) while the Fix The Internet initiative could result in a miracle that saves them. Management often opts for for the miracle.

Which then predictably doesn't happen and then we all get to buy Aeron chairs at a discount.

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

#87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment really demonstrates the divide between those with a casual working understanding of Mozilla due to peripheral awareness vs those who are or were once heavily involved with the project. (Side note: it's hard to read discussions about Mozilla on HN for this reason.) Mozillians at Facebook is not new or novel. There was a time when it seemed like everyone was leaving Mozilla for Facebook. If someone collect…

I thought that people working at Mozilla were passionate about privacy, open-source, trust, and were working at Mozilla for the values. But you say many of them would work to the company with opposite values.

Like any company's employees: they're all different people! They each have their own reasons for where they work and their own goals and ambitions.

Any job you take is going to be a blend and balance across your personal passions, values, talents, desire for impact, financial goals and responsibilities, risk tolerance, and alternative available opportunities.

Is it so surprising that one of the largest employers in the bay has attractive opportunities across a range of reasons?

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

#88
post #79

How to list a good organization and role there? The button for having one added goes to a 404'd Facebook page

It's not a 404, just an internal alumni post. The goal is to keep it alumni-only, but if you have an alumni at your company you can email me (email in profile)!

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This comment really demonstrates the divide between those with a casual working understanding of Mozilla due to peripheral awareness vs those who are or were once heavily involved with the project. (Side note: it's hard to read discussions about Mozilla on HN for this reason.) Mozillians at Facebook is not new or novel. There was a time when it seemed like everyone was leaving Mozilla for Facebook. If someone collect…

I thought that people working at Mozilla were passionate about privacy, open-source, trust, and were working at Mozilla for the values. But you say many of them would work to the company with opposite values.

IIRC Facebook has more than 100 privacy engineers (it's been a few years since I spoke to recruiters there). Facebook has challenges, but it also presents an opportunity to work on security and privacy challenges in way that doesn't exist in many places in the world.

Interpretations of other peoples values is largely skewed by their perception, and rarely takes into account the practical realities of working on privacy and security in tech.

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

#90
post #13

fyi for the people involved in this: use of a mozilla trademark in a domain name is subject to the mozilla (tm) trademark policy: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/trademarks/policy/ I hope your project doesn't run afoul of this :)

Eh they laid off a bunch of their lawyers so I should be good.

This comment may end up being 'priceless' in a way you won't appreciate but until then you have my vote.
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