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Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Sounds like a great outcome for the people who are relying on that work for income right now.

And also sounds great for those that now have to wait for an hour+ for a taxi or maybe not have a ride at all.

If Lyft isn't shutting down, I'm sure they'd love to have Uber's former drivers onboard.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Seems like a fair outcome to me. If they can't operate within the law, they shouldn't operate.

Sounds like a great outcome for the people who are relying on that work for income right now.

The people that got paid unemployment benefits and have for months now? From funds that Uber never contributed a cent towards?

I'm sure they are fine, but we must now ensure this scenario can not ever repeat.

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Golden opportunity for the taxicab industry to get its act together and compete on a semi-level playing field.

The corruption here is incredible - the taxi cab industry had insurance of like $20K per accident (talk to the women who got brain damage), would never pickup in bad areas AND paid their workers as.... independent contractors!!

You think your taxi driver is a W2 employee - please think again.

The number of carve outs in this new "principled" rule is incredible, and more industries keep asking for them (freelance writers, gig musicians etc). Laws should ideally be broadly and equally applied, not this here is the rule except for a, then b, then c,d,e depending on who can lobby in their exceptions.

Pathetic.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Could this be posturing to get the state to back down on the enforcement of its decision? And does anyone have a guess if Uber is making money in California right now? Given the state is still in lock down.

it is. Airbnb tried to pull the same trick in New York City. All Uber has to do is follow the law. Of course they can't since their business model is based on violating labour laws. If your business model relies on doing something illegal to make money then you are no better than the mafia, it's just organized crime.

As for people here who invoke "freedom of work". Most people doing these jobs don't have much choice at first place, in order to survive. But eventually Uber will backstab them, one way or another.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Seems like a fair outcome to me. If they can't operate within the law, they shouldn't operate.

Sounds like a great outcome for the people who are relying on that work for income right now.

Same could be said about human traffickers and crack dealers. Won't somebody think of these "workers?"

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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And also sounds great for those that now have to wait for an hour+ for a taxi or maybe not have a ride at all.

If Lyft isn't shutting down, I'm sure they'd love to have Uber's former drivers onboard.

I'm sure 99% of them are already on both

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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If Uber hasn't been preparing internally for the possibility of losing this suit, they've been irresponsible in the hopes that California would go "oh shit, they're gonna shoot the hostage".

Well, I'm sure they have. They fundamentally disagree with the outcome, and so they will just not operate in California. Nobody will because the business model won't allow you to pay people enough money without charging too much. I also fundamentally agree with Uber and others here. They created a platform for someone to make a few bucks. If I sell something on Etsy they don't have to all of a sudden pay for my healt…

> They fundamentally disagree with the outcome, and so they will just not operate in California.

I suspect they will if Lyft does, regardless of public statements intended to pressure the politicians.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Uber hasn't been preparing internally for the possibility of losing this suit, they've been irresponsible in the hopes that California would go "oh shit, they're gonna shoot the hostage".

Well, I'm sure they have. They fundamentally disagree with the outcome, and so they will just not operate in California. Nobody will because the business model won't allow you to pay people enough money without charging too much. I also fundamentally agree with Uber and others here. They created a platform for someone to make a few bucks. If I sell something on Etsy they don't have to all of a sudden pay for my healt…

I am just waiting for the lawsuits for when they shut down from drivers but also politicians threatening to jail the executives for taking that course.

This just isn't about Uber and Lyft but they were targets because some very big money was getting hurt by their existence.

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