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Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Post by stingraycharles »

ceejayoz wrote: post #8
sjroot wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a great outcome for the people who are relying on that work for income right now.

If Uber hasn't been preparing internally for the possibility of losing this suit, they've been irresponsible in the hopes that California would go "oh shit, they're gonna shoot the hostage".

Maybe I’m interpreting the sarcasm incorrectly, but I think the grandparent means the drivers, not the Uber employees.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Post by ignoramous »

sjroot wrote: post #3
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #2

Seems like a fair outcome to me. If they can't operate within the law, they shouldn't operate.

Sounds like a great outcome for the people who are relying on that work for income right now.

> Sounds like a great outcome for the people who are relying on that work for income right now.

Are alternatives like Lyft closing down in California, too?

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Post by dclusin »

DiffEq wrote: post #5
sjroot wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a great outcome for the people who are relying on that work for income right now.

And also sounds great for those that now have to wait for an hour+ for a taxi or maybe not have a ride at all.

This was the killer feature for those too young to remember a life before Uber. Back when I used to drink at bars it was so frustrating to call different cab companies and have them all say they're "5 minutes away." I felt and continue to feel no sorrow for those cab companies that Uber decimated.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Post by stephencoyner »

“If the appeal doesn’t work out for Uber, it will be banking on voters to determine its fate. Khosrowshahi said if that’s the case, the service would likely shut down in California until November, when voters in the state decide on Proposition 22, which would exempt drivers for app-based transportation and delivery companies from being considered employees.”

It’ll be REALLY interesting to watch this all unfold.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Post by ivraatiems »

xiaolingxiao wrote: post #4

Could this be posturing to get the state to back down on the enforcement of its decision? And does anyone have a guess if Uber is making money in California right now? Given the state is still in lock down.

I think that's exactly what it is. It's a signal to the state saying "we're gonna lay off a bunch of people and blame you for it if you do this."

I'm confident Uber is capable of doing complex things quickly when it is in Uber's interests to do so.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Post by ericmay »

ceejayoz wrote: post #8
sjroot wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a great outcome for the people who are relying on that work for income right now.

If Uber hasn't been preparing internally for the possibility of losing this suit, they've been irresponsible in the hopes that California would go "oh shit, they're gonna shoot the hostage".

Well, I'm sure they have. They fundamentally disagree with the outcome, and so they will just not operate in California. Nobody will because the business model won't allow you to pay people enough money without charging too much. I also fundamentally agree with Uber and others here. They created a platform for someone to make a few bucks. If I sell something on Etsy they don't have to all of a sudden pay for my healthcare costs. The fact that people have turned to driving for Uber (and others) highlights problems with our government, economy, and priorities, not the companies. I really wish people would stop giving government a pass and wanting corporations to come save them. Go vote, educate yourself, and do something with your democracy. If people have to resort to driving for Uber to live, then that's something we need to fix at a state-wide or country-wide level.

Many people depend on rideshare like Uber to get to work like a public utility. Maybe if California (and this is true of other areas) actually built and invested in bike able neighborhoods and public transport, then they wouldn't need Uber.

California will lose this one eventually. You don't know what you have until it's gone.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Post by ceejayoz »

stingraycharles wrote: post #11
ceejayoz wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Uber hasn't been preparing internally for the possibility of losing this suit, they've been irresponsible in the hopes that California would go "oh shit, they're gonna shoot the hostage".

Maybe I’m interpreting the sarcasm incorrectly, but I think the grandparent means the drivers, not the Uber employees.

The drivers (and customers) are the hostages. Uber should've been spending the last few months preparing for the possibility of this ruling being enforced. (I suspect they have been, and "oh we'll have to shut down!" is a negotiating tactic.)

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Post by ivraatiems »

badlucklottery wrote: post #10
sjroot wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a great outcome for the people who are relying on that work for income right now.

Yeah, it seems like Uber should have had a plan B in place for if they lost this case. Unless "take what you can carry then shut down in CA" was the plan.

I think that was exactly the plan. Now they get to blame CA's government for their firing workers.
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