> Ok, I want to preface this article by stating that it is entirely anecdota...
Clown dismissed.
A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
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Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.google.com/search?q=sweden+covid+deathrate&oq=sw... Sweden's death rate is down to zero today and has been trending down since mid April. Summer Holidays did not start until late May where deaths were already half of what they were in mid April. This post isn't aging, it's already aged.
> Sweden's death rate is down to zero today No, it isn't. Sweden has fairly laggy reporting of deaths, with the deaths often taking several weeks to show up in statistics, so at any given date, deaths attributed to the last few days are always dropping to close to zero. I looked into this a bit in mid-APRIL, when somebody claimed that deaths were dropping to zero. At the time, substantial revisions occurred for about…
Several weeks is a bit of an exaggeration. Lag in reporting has been around 4-5 days on average. Lately the lag has increased somewhat as the number of reported deaths has gone down.
Don’t take my word for it, see for yourself at https://morberg.github.io/covid-notebook/covid.html
GitHub repo here: https://github.com/morberg/covid-notebook
Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
#333There are a lot of highly problematic claims in the article. This one stood out to me: >Shutting down completely in order to decrease the total number of deaths only makes sense if you are willing to stay shut down until a vaccine is available. That could take years. No country is willing to wait that long. Actually it might very well just be half a year until we have a vaccine. Multiple candidate vaccines are in pha…
There are alot of ongoing trials and indeed unprecented global effort towards a vaccine but we can’t forget the usual time to market, and the fact that no vaccine has ever been created for a coronavirus. 6 months is very optimistic.
I donct want to be overly pessimistic but took years for Ebola. It was first discovered in the ’76 and we only have an approved vaccine for it since last year. That's 44 years.
Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
#334Its baffling that lots of government still want to continue the lockdown.
I sincerely hope they do so that the rate of infections in the general population is low enough that my limited exposure to other people when grocery shopping once every 2 weeks is low enough risk that I won't catch it.
Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
#335Counter arguments: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.10.20096909v... https://covid19-projections.com/denmark vs https://covid19-projections.com/sweden Its also possible Sweden just got lucky with the prevalent strain https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.03.233866v1.... I would love it if Sweden was right and tackled this in a way that does look like a seasonal flu, but I think the science is…
Plus, just because some policy works for some country (for some specific time period) it doesn't mean it will work for another. There are way too many differences in factors that affect virus propagation for the same policy to be effective in most other places, healthcare being, like you mentioned, just one of them.
Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
#336It seems to me the only conclusion we can draw by studying Sweden is that Sweden's policy may have worked for their country for the studied timeline. Let's see if it continues to work going forward. We can't say for sure that the policy was what kept virus propagation under control, it might just be the set of factors outside of the government policy. Similarly we can't just apply the same policy elsewhere, in completely different circumstances, and expect for it to yield similar results. Policy has to be decided based on as much data as you can gather, find out the main virus propagation causes and try to deal with those in an effective way. Don't do something because "Sweden did it".
Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
#337Confused by this: > Shutting down completely in order to decrease the total number of deaths only makes sense if you are willing to stay shut down until a vaccine is available. Wouldn’t shutting down completely for a month or two effectively end covid ?
Yes, if the entire world shuts down completely, or, if you shutdown completely a single country and after the virus is "dead" inside the country, then never allow any incoming travel (even returning citizens) until the virus is dead everywhere else.
Obviously none of these are practically possible.
Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
#338Wouldn't this article be considered "misinformation" on most social media sites? It's important information that I don't think should be censored, but it goes contrary to WHO.
"Sebastian Rushworth M.D." clearly states at the beginning of his internet post that it's anecdotal, even though his bio suggests he's trying to correct internet misinformation with "science". It absolutely shouldn't be censored. I mean, if I was considering taking this guy's medical advice - I'd want to know about this.
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Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
#339Earlier quoted context omitted.
You asked a lot of questions that seem to imply a lot of conspiracy-driven actions, but you didn't really state any definite opinions or present any evidence that supports those implications. If you're going to "write a little book here," you're going to have to say what you believe and present the evidence for why you believe it.
That is a laughable mischaracterization of the post to which you are responding. These are legitimate questions that definitively need to be asked and answered in context of a complete workover of our societies, instead of being dishonestly dismissed.
You said you had so much information that you could write a little book. Is your book going to consist entirely of questions that appeal to thoughts of conspiracy and shadowy action by oppressing forces? Or will you simply state your opinions about how things are and support those with evidence?
Re: A Swedish doctor's perspective on Covid
#340Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is a laughable mischaracterization of the post to which you are responding. These are legitimate questions that definitively need to be asked and answered in context of a complete workover of our societies, instead of being dishonestly dismissed.
You said you had so much information that you could write a little book. Is your book going to consist entirely of questions that appeal to thoughts of conspiracy and shadowy action by oppressing forces? Or will you simply state your opinions about how things are and support those with evidence?
That is your characterization and borderline trolling. Only a troll would claim that insisting on legislative oversight of executive, to take one item, is indicative of irrational fears.