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Re: Ask HN: How Belarus can keep connected despite internet blackout?

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Loon flight systems create a network in the stratosphere similar to terrestrial based cell towers. The difference is on the ground, cell towers are fixed and transmit their signals to moving cell phones. With Loon’s solution, both the cell towers and the people are moving... More here: https://loon.com

But Loon requires the authorisation of the local government.

Re: Ask HN: How Belarus can keep connected despite internet blackout?

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The penny has just dropped with me. This scenario is exactly where Starlink[1] can shine (no pun intended). Find a way to get uplink routers into the locked down country and it would be impossible for totalitarian governments to block internet access completely. -- [1] https://www.starlink.com/

What did I say wrong? Care to explain the down-votes?

Because it doesn't work yet? Maybe it's useful in the future in other places.

Re: Ask HN: How Belarus can keep connected despite internet blackout?

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The penny has just dropped with me. This scenario is exactly where Starlink[1] can shine (no pun intended). Find a way to get uplink routers into the locked down country and it would be impossible for totalitarian governments to block internet access completely. -- [1] https://www.starlink.com/

What did I say wrong? Care to explain the down-votes?

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Re: Ask HN: How Belarus can keep connected despite internet blackout?

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The penny has just dropped with me. This scenario is exactly where Starlink[1] can shine (no pun intended). Find a way to get uplink routers into the locked down country and it would be impossible for totalitarian governments to block internet access completely. -- [1] https://www.starlink.com/

What did I say wrong? Care to explain the down-votes?

There are national laws and international treaties that regulate usage of the radio spectrum. Without international cooperation, many radio applications would be impossible.

Article 18 of the ITU Radio Regulations was mentioned in the comments on another post. It basically states that nobody can use radio in any country without permission from that country.

Re: Ask HN: How Belarus can keep connected despite internet blackout?

#47

For large gatherings you can have Bluetooth connected mesh networks. There are apps that already implement this out of the box like Bridgefy or Briar. You can have a network of consumer radio walkie talkies with privacy codes, each node spread with a range of about 20km, depending on the weather and terrain. But this is would need dedicated hardware which I assume is not easily sourced in the current restricted envir…

Are there any documents describing the actual user experiences of using Bridgefy or Briar in a real life scenario. They seem like cool tools using interesting technology but I am not convinced that they work well in practice and it is difficult to find much information about where they have been used successfully.

Not a document but Hong Kong protesters use it https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49565587

Re: Ask HN: How Belarus can keep connected despite internet blackout?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it doesn't work yet? Maybe it's useful in the future in other places.

Ah good point. My bad.

Just curious, is there a way governments could somehow block access to those satellites or force the companies behind them to deny access for people of their country?

Re: Ask HN: How Belarus can keep connected despite internet blackout?

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This is an important area in which I feel development has been disappointing, mainly because the commercial value isn't there. There are a few off-grid mesh dongle products that have been released in the past few years. Unfortunately, they're all crazy expensive. Examples: https://gotenna.com/ https://beartooth.com/ https://www.gotoky.com/ https://fogo.io/ They all rely on your phone and themselves cost more than a w…

Because we have no access or control over the actual phoone part of the phone - the 4G/ cellular transmitter.
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