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Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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'The coronavirus pandemic “significantly impacted our revenue,”' - Most of their revenue comes from search engines paying to be the default. Are there any details on why the pandemic would have a significant impact on that?

Search engines royalties are a share of the ad revenue generated from the search queries. Ad revenue is down significantly across the board.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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I wonder if rustc developpers have been fired

When I worked there, there were basically 4 people working on Rust.

And these people were making sure Rust would not need Mozilla to survive. Very smart people. Rust will be fine.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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I find this sad, Mozilla is really an advocate for the open web and web standards. Since web browsers are free, they can't make much. They might be able to sell something like Thunderbird; if they improve it and make it more into a service, like Hey! for example. They could also try the sponsorship model that a lot of open source projects are doing. They already have sponsors, but maybe sponsors for their open source…

They aren't hurting for money: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#Affiliatio...

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome didn’t destroy Firefox. Firefox destroyed Firefox. Chrome was SO MUCH better it could't help but win. Turns out people do actually care about performance and responsiveness.

Chrome isn't better than Firefox, and both browsers have varied in terms of their performance. Google had the advantage of plastering Chrome all over google.com when people performed searches. That's how it got installed everywhere.

You're changing tenses from "was" to "is". Yes, firefox is good today. But, back in the day when people had to think hard about which browser to use, it wasn't as good.

ALSO, it's mostly that people switched from IE to chrome, as opposed to switching from firefox to chrome.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Web browsers should be considered public utility, funded by tax payers money and developed by independent organization. Core web browser should have minimal set of features, just enough to safely browse internet and do every day tasks, like online banking. Open source "core" web browser could be extended by companies and provided as commercial software with various additional features (VPNs, news aggregators, etc.) that might be useful to some users who have means to pay for them.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Would defiantly move from proton to Mozilla’s VPN the minute they make it available in Europe. Would love to cancel my iCloud storage too, if Mozilla offered an hosted NextCloud or something similar.

Mozilla's VPN is powered by Mullvad. Mullvad is available globally right now, costs €5/month (vs Mozilla VPN's $5), and allows a range of payment methods all the way down to "cash in an envelope". Mozilla are great, I have nothing against them, but I really struggle to see the point of their VPN service.

I’d like to support Mozilla going forward. I’m not sure if this is a major revenue stream for them possibly or not, but if I can help, why not. I’m aware of mullvad btw and I need to run out my proton subscription in any case.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome didn’t destroy Firefox. Firefox destroyed Firefox. Chrome was SO MUCH better it could't help but win. Turns out people do actually care about performance and responsiveness.

Chrome isn't better than Firefox, and both browsers have varied in terms of their performance. Google had the advantage of plastering Chrome all over google.com when people performed searches. That's how it got installed everywhere.

Chrome was better than Firefox; it was massively better than anything else. And it had the omnibar. I now find Firefox the fastest, but it seems that it varies from person-to-person/machine-to-machine and Chrome is entrenched.

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Web browsers should be considered public utility, funded by tax payers money and developed by independent organization. Core web browser should have minimal set of features, just enough to safely browse internet and do every day tasks, like online banking. Open source "core" web browser could be extended by companies and provided as commercial software with various additional features (VPNs, news aggregators, etc.) t…

This makes about as much sense as saying that toilets or electrical outlets should be public utilities.

I've heard good arguments that the internet should be a utility like electricity or water. But this is nonsensical.

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