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Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix

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Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix

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> never underestimate the amount of money the FAANGs have to poach your talent. I really wish we'd stop using the word "poach". It's a loaded word with negative connotations, but what it really means here is "offer someone a better situation than you offered them". Employees have agency, they aren't wild elephants who need your "protection" from "predators" who just want to pay them more.

Approximately 10 years ago, I was really unhappy with my work situation and was checking job postings. I found one that sounded right up my alley and I reached out to the agency that posted it. They told me that because I was working for another one of their clients, they wouldn't submit me for the job because they felt it was unethical. I responded that I wasn't owned by my employer and just as they were free to let…

Frankly their actions don’t seem particularly unreasonable to me.

Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix

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> never underestimate the amount of money the FAANGs have to poach your talent. I really wish we'd stop using the word "poach". It's a loaded word with negative connotations, but what it really means here is "offer someone a better situation than you offered them". Employees have agency, they aren't wild elephants who need your "protection" from "predators" who just want to pay them more.

I think it’s poaching from the perspective of the employer not the employee. The employer wants to keep its prized employees from getting poached by other ruthless employers.

This is purely their fault for being uncompetitive in the wages and benefits offered to their employees. Of course they try to spin it negatively with loaded language.

The best way to protect your prized employees is to treat them so well they'd be crazy to look elsewhere. If you, the business owner, can't afford that then you just aren't as competitive or successful as you think you are.

Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are $500k+ yearly salaries in SV really that usual? Salaries? Not at all. Total compensation? Well, it depends. Software engineers with * Salary * Bonus (anywhere between 15-25% of salary) * Initial grant that vests over 3-4yrs * Stock "refreshers" that you get annually * General equity appreciation due to a bull market For senior engineers, the equity portion of their compensation far outweighs their salary.

I wouldn't count the equity appreciation as compensation. you already own the capital, its your own capital gain, not income from employer at that point.

Yes and no. When your RSUs are granted at 100k and then vest a few years later at 300k, from yours and the IRS' perspective you made whatever + 300k.

Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix

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Are $500k+ yearly salaries in SV really that usual?

For senior engineers, yes. I've found that https://www.levels.fyi/ is pretty accurate.

Levels.fyi seems to indicate senior total comp as more like 300k in Bay Area for FAANG.

Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix

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And here I am, can't even get a recruiter from Netflix to reply, after submitting my resume on a job that I was match for 10/10 requirements on the description AND got someone to refer me.

Don't put yourself down, hiring is broken. Very few recruiters actually understand the requirements that are in demand for a given position, and many will discard you for irrelevant reasons: e.g. they dislike your CV formatting, or you have extra unrelated experience in the CV (thus you're not specialized).

It's mostly a numbers game, so keep putting in the time - but not mindlessly: keep optimizing your CV/presentation/skills and it will eventually happen.

Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix

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> never underestimate the amount of money the FAANGs have to poach your talent. I really wish we'd stop using the word "poach". It's a loaded word with negative connotations, but what it really means here is "offer someone a better situation than you offered them". Employees have agency, they aren't wild elephants who need your "protection" from "predators" who just want to pay them more.

It’s the same as when during elections a state is called “up for grabs”. Things are phrased in a way that parties/companies are the main actors and voters/employees are just fodder for them. Not a good attitude in a democracy.

Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix

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And here I am, can't even get a recruiter from Netflix to reply, after submitting my resume on a job that I was match for 10/10 requirements on the description AND got someone to refer me.

When was this? Companies now are slowing hiring down a whole bunch

Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix

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Instead of "hit by a bus," I prefer the term "win the lotto." Any member of your team could win a life-changing amount of money in the lottery, inherit it, win a gambling bet, etc. Frame it as a good thing rather than a death or a change of hire - somebody might just flat out retire because they don't financially need your employment anymore.

I see this one as a different problem. If your team members who won the lotto would just give their two weeks and quit, then your company/team has a substantial morale/motivation problem. Such a company is not creating an environment where people enjoy being a part of it.

Yea sorry that's bullshit. I certainly don't need the stress of a job in my life if I have other options. I don't care how much I like my job, it's still a job and the only reason I'm doing it is to make money. Otherwise I'd be spending time with my family and doing hobbies, of which one would likely still be writing software.

And I wouldn't expect anyone in that position to give me two weeks. Two weeks is about not burning bridges. If I never need to cross that bridge again, what do I care if it burns?

Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix

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> never underestimate the amount of money the FAANGs have to poach your talent. I really wish we'd stop using the word "poach". It's a loaded word with negative connotations, but what it really means here is "offer someone a better situation than you offered them". Employees have agency, they aren't wild elephants who need your "protection" from "predators" who just want to pay them more.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/poach 2 a: to take (game or fish) by illegal methods b: to appropriate (something) as one's own >>> c: to attract (someone, such as an employee or customer) away from a competitor <<<

The use of the word 'poach' by employers comes from a mentality where they are the lords, the employees are deer on their land, and other companies are peasants trying to get some food, which the lord believes to be his exclusive right.

It dehumanizes the employee by comparing them to an owned animal.

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