And here I am, can't even get a recruiter from Netflix to reply, after submitting my resume on a job that I was match for 10/10 requirements on the description AND got someone to refer me.
Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix
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Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix
#32> never underestimate the amount of money the FAANGs have to poach your talent. I really wish we'd stop using the word "poach". It's a loaded word with negative connotations, but what it really means here is "offer someone a better situation than you offered them". Employees have agency, they aren't wild elephants who need your "protection" from "predators" who just want to pay them more.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/poach 2 a: to take (game or fish) by illegal methods b: to appropriate (something) as one's own >>> c: to attract (someone, such as an employee or customer) away from a competitor <<<
Webster’s dictionary describes language as it is used, it doesn’t prescribe definitions. Citing a dictionary means nothing in a debate of whether we ought to use a word in a certain context.
Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix
#33The "hit by a bus" thing is used for the most dramatic effect: there's nothing you can do, there's no grace period where a "poached" developer can give some wisdom to his/her successor etc. Managers know that it's not the most likely case, but it's still possible.
Keep in mind that an organization that doesn't appreciate their top performs (hence them leaving) is also more likely to not take advantage of their limited time left when they give notice.
And a grace period that isn't taken advantage of is functionally equivalent to your employee being hit by a bus.
Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix
#34The "hit by a bus" thing is used for the most dramatic effect: there's nothing you can do, there's no grace period where a "poached" developer can give some wisdom to his/her successor etc. Managers know that it's not the most likely case, but it's still possible.
Yeah I think "hit by a bus" generally means there is 0 chance of knowledge transfer and is more a disaster recovery term than a talent retention term. Unless you really burn a bridge with your workers they should have at least a week or 2 to transfer knowledge!
Opposite opinion. You should never need more then a day to knowledge transfer. If that.
I always try and cross train people enough that I can quit at any point and it’s not an issue.
All processes are kept automatic where no one is crucial to keep it running.
Mostly it’s useful for vacations. In the past I went on a cruise. And I wasn’t sure the company will be online without me to baby them through.
After that I got extremely serious about investing in the team and tools to never let that happen again.
Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix
#35FAANG companies can certainly offer more money, but there are lots of things other companies can offer too (besides Ruby on Rails apparently). - ownership of the product and process - less red tape and politics - good work life balance - location other than Silicon Valley - boss who pays attention to engineer needs and wants Money is a huge factor but it isn't the only one!
I feel like people try to tell themselves this, but money is BY FAR the most important factor. And FAANGs pay a ton.
Maybe this can be true if you're going from like $250k to $270k from FAANG to FAANG.
But most of the time we're talking about something like $180k to $250k when getting poached to a FAANG. It would take a huge amount of perks or otherwise to make that gap worth it.
(Of course this isn't true for everyone. But it's true for most)
Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix
#36FAANG companies can certainly offer more money, but there are lots of things other companies can offer too (besides Ruby on Rails apparently). - ownership of the product and process - less red tape and politics - good work life balance - location other than Silicon Valley - boss who pays attention to engineer needs and wants Money is a huge factor but it isn't the only one!
You paint a false dichotomy here. These compensation numbers are just as likely in NYC. Work life balance at many of the FAANG companies tends to be better than other companies (especially startups), and I've had plenty of bosses that pay a great deal of attention to my needs.
Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix
#37is this a RoR ad? It doesn't really provide any new insights. If your devs are hired by nflx or hit by a bus the outcome is the same. It's just a saying
Yeah, it was kind of jarring to go from "your developers might get hit by a bus" to "Ruby on Rails solves all your problems!"
Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix
#38> never underestimate the amount of money the FAANGs have to poach your talent. I really wish we'd stop using the word "poach". It's a loaded word with negative connotations, but what it really means here is "offer someone a better situation than you offered them". Employees have agency, they aren't wild elephants who need your "protection" from "predators" who just want to pay them more.
> but what it really means here is "offer someone a better situation than you offered them".
Some people would similarly have a problem with claiming a higher salary equals a 'better situation'
Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/poach 2 a: to take (game or fish) by illegal methods b: to appropriate (something) as one's own >>> c: to attract (someone, such as an employee or customer) away from a competitor <<<
Webster’s dictionary describes language as it is used, it doesn’t prescribe definitions. Citing a dictionary means nothing in a debate of whether we ought to use a word in a certain context.
How do you feel about poached eggs?
Re: Developer won’t get hit by a bus, they’ll get hired by Netflix
#40> never underestimate the amount of money the FAANGs have to poach your talent. I really wish we'd stop using the word "poach". It's a loaded word with negative connotations, but what it really means here is "offer someone a better situation than you offered them". Employees have agency, they aren't wild elephants who need your "protection" from "predators" who just want to pay them more.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/poach 2 a: to take (game or fish) by illegal methods b: to appropriate (something) as one's own >>> c: to attract (someone, such as an employee or customer) away from a competitor <<<
A word's denotative meaning has little relevance if the connotative meaning is something else. "Literally" is probably the best example of this.