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Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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This announcement is very strong in corporate speak. Main takeaway is that they’re out of money and need to are going to focus on making money?

Just get Google to fund them, i’m sure they will be glad to write a big cheque.

Apparently, that wasn't sufficient.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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> I just want a web browser Excellent! How much are you planning on contributing?

Already contributing by allowing all the telemetry & data collection and by having unchanged the default search engine (Google)

Telemetry and data collection don't contribute to paying the bills, only to let Mozilla work on improving the browser.

Default search engine does.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Also, please make a monthly donation to Mozilla if you can. You will contribute to saving the world. https://donate.mozilla.org/

While donating to Mozilla Foundation is a great cause [1], none of those funds go to funding Mozilla Corporation, and thus Firefox. If you want your funds to go toward MoCo (and thus Firefox development), your best bet is to subscribe to Mozilla VPN or Pocket Premium. [1] https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/initiatives/

What does the Mozilla Foundation do if it doesn't develop Firefox? What do they spend their money on?

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Mozilla management has me puzzled. They have a position that is incredibly strong, lots of dedicated users that would rather quit the web than switch to Chrome or Edge. "But we know we also need to go beyond the browser to give people new products and technologies that both excite them and represent their interests" Is exactly what they should stay away from. Work on the bloody browser, forget about the rest. There a…

Thanks for capturing my feelings around this so well. I absolutely love Firefox, but I can’t help but feel Mozilla’s ambitions are hurting them rather than helping them. Don’t get me wrong; their “distractions” have given the world a lot of nice things (Rust comes to mind). But first and foremost, Mozilla’s mission should be to ensure a great, competitive browser, and they’re losing the competition badly. And imho th…

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Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Did anyone find anything in this post about Mozilla refusing to take money from Google? I can’t find it. Mozilla, stop taking money from Google and letting them be the default search engine! Please don’t enable and legitimise surveillance capitalism.

So what you're saying is... since Mozilla has cash difficulties, let's get rid of the main income source?

Or am I misunderstanding?

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Mozilla management has me puzzled. They have a position that is incredibly strong, lots of dedicated users that would rather quit the web than switch to Chrome or Edge. "But we know we also need to go beyond the browser to give people new products and technologies that both excite them and represent their interests" Is exactly what they should stay away from. Work on the bloody browser, forget about the rest. There a…

> Work on the bloody browser, forget about the rest.

But they did that, and now Firefox market share is almost negligible because it wasn't the default browser on mobile OS's.

For example, I'm sceptical about the potential reach of XR, but if it grows big, it is vital that Firefox plays a bigger role there, instead of everybody being reliant on apps and Chrome once again.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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To do that now would be financial suicide. They have several new services, if they manage to get revenue from them they could survive cutting Google. But not before.

> They have several new services, Please name these revenue generating services from Mozilla.

From the top of my head, Firefox VPN and Pocket.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Mozilla management has me puzzled. They have a position that is incredibly strong, lots of dedicated users that would rather quit the web than switch to Chrome or Edge. "But we know we also need to go beyond the browser to give people new products and technologies that both excite them and represent their interests" Is exactly what they should stay away from. Work on the bloody browser, forget about the rest. There a…

The major threat for the web is Native Apps.

They should find/build/maintain a good alternative for that.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Also, please make a monthly donation to Mozilla if you can. You will contribute to saving the world. https://donate.mozilla.org/

Do this! I procrastinated on switching from Chrome to Firefox for several months because I wasn't sure how much time and effort it would take. I set up a monthly donation to Mozilla during this time because it was easy and supported browser diversity. When I did finally switch, it turned out to be pretty easy and fast to transfer my bookmarks and passwords to Firefox, and there are some features like the built-in con…

As some have pointed out above, the donations don’t go towards the browser by the way.

Re: Mozilla lays off 250 employees while it refocuses on commercial products

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Mozilla management has me puzzled. They have a position that is incredibly strong, lots of dedicated users that would rather quit the web than switch to Chrome or Edge. "But we know we also need to go beyond the browser to give people new products and technologies that both excite them and represent their interests" Is exactly what they should stay away from. Work on the bloody browser, forget about the rest. There a…

Mozilla management is getting paid top dollar, they are trying to act as they deserve it by starting and killing projects they clearly don't understand. I would love to see a small dedicated team concentrated on the browser and led by manager who are not playing SV hotshots.

I can see a lot of the problems being those providing the funding to Mozilla or even how we praise people or judge them successful on here.

When is the last time a bug fix rose to the top of Hacker News?

When is the last time a cool new library or project rose to the top of Hacker News?

Virtually nobody would consider a fixed browser a success and unsurprisingly, nobody wants to do that kind of unrewarded work.

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